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09-08-2022, 03:14 PM #826
Yeah, should stick with gas, because external events never screw with that. We've never had to rely on our enemies to supply us with the one substance our economy needs to be strong. That would just be batshit crazy, right? To let Putin decide if we are in a recession or not? Who would let that happen on their watch? Better stick with gas, cause it's safer.
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09-08-2022, 05:05 PM #827Banned
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09-08-2022, 05:44 PM #828
You're assuming a climate saving future where everyone replaces their gas powered cars with EV's (and their gas appliances with electric) and otherwise goes right on living the same lives they were living before. That is not what a climate-saving future looks like. Nor is it likely that the earth will continue to support 7B+++ people or anything close to that number.
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09-08-2022, 06:24 PM #829Registered User
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I can hear the tipping points going over as we speak. Retreat seems more and more to be our only option, throwing up as much token resistance as we can to try to keep the looming catastrophe to a "minimum". Things change; adjust or die. I do think we as a species will come out the other side, but it will no longer be "our" planet ..... we will have learned with much pain and suffering that we're all in this together, and with humility and respect we will eventually, slowly rebuild a better world, having learned from our past mistakes
......... I could be wrong, however. Good climates on both sides, some my best friends are getting fabulous tans, and I"m checking out in 10-20 years so all I care about is the next 5 years of snow fall.
Curmudgeons gonna curmudgeon.
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09-08-2022, 06:44 PM #830Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-08-2022, 07:26 PM #831
I mean, a climate-saving future also involves technological improvement to steel and concrete manufacturing, battery or biofuel propulsion for shipping and air travel, and also some amount of carbon sequestration or removal. But that will just about do it.
Some of that shit is probably going to be kind of expensive, so people will make lifestyle changes around the shifts in relative costs of consumption goods, but we do that constantly already. And we've got a lot of clever financial analysts and engineers who are keen to wring every nickel out of manufacturing and transportation. These problems are mostly solvable.
Don't get me wrong: our land use policies suck and desperately need reform, there are other environmental problems beyond the climate, and our society has social ills and international diplomacy to address.
But climate is a solvable problem. Doing so doesn't mean mass sterilization or giving up a fairly plush quality of life.
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09-08-2022, 07:44 PM #832
Ya know, you can still fix this mistake, it’ll be messy but you can right this wrong.
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09-08-2022, 09:20 PM #833
Bwahahah we have more then enough oil here to be self sufficient...for how long who knows, but its a mega f' ton.... we should be drilling here and producing until we get our EV infrastructure up to speed. Then we can make a smooth transition away from combustion engines and fossil fuels.... We dont need Russian oil but unfortunately a lot of European countries do!
and you think oil is bad just wait until we need cobalt, lithium and nickel for batteries. whoops.Last edited by mar123; 09-08-2022 at 09:43 PM.
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09-08-2022, 09:59 PM #834
like this too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ScJ_FwaZk
and this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zcrsgdl_hP0
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09-08-2022, 10:12 PM #835
It’s a global market you potato. It doesn’t matter what we produce if it’s commodified across the globe. Even if we aren’t literally buying Russian oil, their price effects the price US oil producers charge. Also, I would venture we don’t want to be tied to Middle Eastern oil either for a variety of similar reasons.
Also, even if we COULD get all the oil we need out of the ground, should we? Is it economical if we account for the externalities it causes?
“We should be drilling here” is a pipe dream based on bad science and hope. Sure maybe a unicorn shooting rainbows out of its ass COULD show up, but more likely we’ll be standing in a river of horse shit.
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09-08-2022, 10:39 PM #836
Right, but we can influence the market by leveraging supply. And we should also be helping our Euro buds with oil instead of letting them be held hostage by Russia.
So when 2030 rolls around instead of oil were going to rely on "enemy" countries for the production of cobalt, lithium, and nickel for batteries? Really were just swapping out one resource for the other.
ps thanks for the good response enjoying the conversation
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09-08-2022, 10:51 PM #837
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09-08-2022, 11:22 PM #838
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09-08-2022, 11:37 PM #839
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09-09-2022, 08:08 AM #840
Maybe we can mine the moon for the resources needed for batteries and other things we're short on here.. Also, maybe we can dump the additional toxic waste we generate here up there. What could possibly go wrong?
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-09-2022, 08:28 AM #841
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09-09-2022, 09:26 AM #842Rod9301
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Not a climate change denier, but i think the politicians are rushing, without looking at consequences. Not the first time it happened.
Right now, there's no plan on what to do if the wind is inadequate or the sun doesn't shine at night.
Batteries are not the answer, except maybe to help Tesla's profits.
Current technology seems to dictate use of gas power plants, as they can be started and stopped with little delay.
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09-09-2022, 09:39 AM #843Registered User
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Unofficial Networks posting about Abasin firing up snow machines in t minus 2 weeks….
Is it just me seeing the hypocrisy, in what has to be massive energy and water consumption, to fire up snowguns to make 2 WROD’s, closer in date to the 4th of July than Xmas?!?
Droughts, record summer heat in the west in September, don’t think we need to be playing god trying to create winter before Mother Nature says so
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09-09-2022, 10:28 AM #844Registered User
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Clearly you are not a marketing executive.
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09-09-2022, 10:37 AM #845Registered User
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That same marketing head will be blasting out the sustainability teams “Protect our Winter” and sustainability posts for their resort, I just think blowing snow this early flies in the face of that.
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09-09-2022, 11:09 AM #846
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09-09-2022, 11:47 AM #847Registered User
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The energy and emissions to move said water uphill
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09-09-2022, 12:09 PM #848
Per A Basin's website, they get most of their energy from renewables and will be 100 percent renewable by 2025.
Also, this sort of whataboutism doesn't make you seem clever.
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09-09-2022, 01:30 PM #849Registered User
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Not trying to be clever, just pointing out ways in which i feel the ski industry could be more sustainable. Glad they are using renewable energy, & thanks for the warm remarks!
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09-09-2022, 01:34 PM #850Registered User
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Rushing? Are you shitting me?!? They've been dragging the heels for the last 30+ years! Doing nothing is far worse than taking a chance on unknown consequences. And if anybody is telling you that we need to fear these unknown consequences without explaining how they can anticipate them, they're pulling a con.
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