Climate Change

[old goat]

The point I have been trying to make is that things like installing charging stations in apartment parking lots and on the street and increasing the frequency and routes of mass transit are not going to happen without major government intervention and spending on a scale orders of magnitude higher than the Inflation Reduction Act and that is going to mean a huge increase in taxes with a top marginal tax rate of 90%--as it was in the 50's and early 60's--and a wealth tax.

It's so easy to propose solutions and skip over the details of how we get there.

[altacoup]

^^^

Yep. And that’s why anyone who says they want to fight climate change but vote GOP is a liar. The GOP is even an outlier when compared to conservative parties worldwide. Dems aren’t exactly perfect but they’re the only party in this country even trying. The logistics behind trying to fight climate change are beyond massive, way more mobilization than WW2 and on a global scale with governments working together. I’m not exactly optimistic. Maybe fusion will bail us out. Or an asteroid.


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[Bunion 2020]

^^^ There is always some jackass with magic beans for sale that fucks it up for everyone else.

[californiagrown]

FWIW a couple developers i work with/for are starting to provide additional EV charging stations on their urban apartment complex buildings. Whole floors of underground parking will be EV. Its looked at as an ammenity more desireable than pickleball courts and shitty 10'x10' "dog parks".

Also, the thinking for urban sites like that is that an EV doesnt need to charge everyday as the residents are only commuting a few miles each day (they are already living in the urban core after all), whereas an EV owner in the subburbs or rural areas would need to charge far more often.

[SumJongGuy]

The point I have been trying to make is that things like installing charging stations in apartment parking lots and on the street and increasing the frequency and routes of mass transit are not going to happen without major government intervention and spending on a scale orders of magnitude higher than the Inflation Reduction Act and that is going to mean a huge increase in taxes with a top marginal tax rate of 90%--as it was in the 50's and early 60's--and a wealth tax.

It's so easy to propose solutions and skip over the details of how we get there.

Wow, you mean back when America was "Great""? Humm, you'd think the red hat crowd would be all in on that since they're all in on everything else being the way it was in the 50s.. except unions, taxes, common sense gun control, etc...

[paulster2626]

Wow, you mean back when America was "Great""? Humm, you'd think the red hat crowd would be all in on that since they're all in on everything else being the way it was in the 50s.. except unions, taxes, common sense gun control, etc...

Well, they're working on it. They've got abortion back to where it was, at least!

[AK47bp]

Genius.




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[uglymoney]

David Gelles asked World Bank president a simple question that he wouldn't answer. Not surprising.

https://twitter.com/dgelles/status/1...m0-8voLcQ&s=19

Katherine Hayhoe reposted this thread from 2018 in response.

https://twitter.com/KHayhoe/status/1...YAW1TL9dg&s=19

She shuts down the deniers fake arguments one by one. Simple and concise. Reminder why interacting with trolls and deniers on here and elsewhere is a complete waste of breath.

[WMD]

David Gelles asked World Bank president a simple question that he wouldn't answer. Not surprising.

https://twitter.com/dgelles/status/1...m0-8voLcQ&s=19

Katherine Hayhoe reposted this thread from 2018 in response.

https://twitter.com/KHayhoe/status/1...YAW1TL9dg&s=19

She shuts down the deniers fake arguments one by one. Simple and concise. Reminder why interacting with trolls and deniers on here and elsewhere is a complete waste of breath.

Can't find the damn like button!

[Percy Rideout]

Not a Jong but the miserable banned Glademaster thinking he’s welcome here after hoping other maggots die.
He’s only back to spread more hate.

I was wondering where Glade went. Did his daddy ever buy him that overpriced fancy house on Ruedi Shores during the Pandemic Paranoid Property Explosion last summer?

[raisingarizona13]

I was wondering where Glade went. Did his daddy ever buy him that overpriced fancy house on Ruedi Shores during the Pandemic Paranoid Property Explosion last summer?

I think I was "friends" with this dude on Facebook. A few years back I put a post up to see if anyone had some used skis I could buy for the season and that dude went off accusing me of trying to take advantage of people because I was a trust funder and yada yada. It was seriously mean af and so hateful. What a miserable, sorry SOAB that dude is.

[raisingarizona13]

Interesting article on the history of water rights in the south western United States.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/colum...130005432.html

[old goat]

John Wesley Powell must have turned over in his grave when the Colorado River Compact was signed.

[shaft]

Genius.




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LOL. Sloan makes something sort of like this. Powers the sensor that turns on the faucet.

https://www.airdelights.com/3324094.html

[old goat]

Hurricanes hits Canada and typhoon hits Alaska. Shit's getting real.

[AirheadD8]

Hurricanes hits Canada and typhoon hits Alaska. Shit's getting real.

Dogs and cats living in sin!

[tuco]

Not a Jong but the miserable banned Glademaster thinking he’s welcome here after hoping other maggots die.
He’s only back to spread more hate.

Huh!
Yet the 3x'r can state he wishes that the Tuc's house had burned down w/ him in it for stating the dude wasn't being smart renting his basement w/ a known fire hazard and not addressing the issue.
Not that I wanted the dude banned, but maybe some words(or short timeout) on what's not appropriate to post

[SoVT Joey]

The point I have been trying to make is that things like installing charging stations in apartment parking lots and on the street and increasing the frequency and routes of mass transit are not going to happen without major government intervention and spending on a scale orders of magnitude higher than the Inflation Reduction Act and that is going to mean a huge increase in taxes with a top marginal tax rate of 90%--as it was in the 50's and early 60's--and a wealth tax.

It's so easy to propose solutions and skip over the details of how we get there.

listen. I 100000% agree with your last statement. There are tons of proposed solutions and little way to get there. I am for EVs for a lot of people, it’s perfect. They won’t work for me doing construction yet or living where I travel a couple hundred miles in a day doing something for work.

Old Goat brings up the most valid points of all though. California and western states where the cities have been developed in the last 50 years are very different then east coast cities that were developed 250 years ago. Boston is a very standout place. Between the road system or lack there of, lack of parking, super tight streets, and tons of other utilities that are buried and antiquated already, bringing so much more electricity to charge vehicles will be very very expensive.

Is there technology for solar car chargers? Like essentially portable charging stations that have a battery in them to hold a certain amount of charge and a solar panel to charge the batteries back up after said EV is plugged in? It would seem to cut cost in infrastructure, staying above ground would be the cheapest way. So maybe some time of portable charging station needs to come to the table.

[SoVT Joey]

Huh!
Yet the 3x'r can state he wishes that the Tuc's house had burned down w/ him in it for stating the dude wasn't being smart renting his basement w/ a known fire hazard and not addressing the issue.
Not that I wanted the dude banned, but maybe some words(or short timeout) on what's not appropriate to post

sounds like a bunch of babies. Go drive to his shit hole and punch him in the mouth and get the fuck over it.

[tuco]

I'm over it, don't you worry toughguy

[SoVT Joey]

I'm over it, don't you worry toughguy

im not worried about it. Nor am I a tough guy. But I’m also not a full grown man whining to moderators to punish another full grown man for hurtful words like some 5 year olds on a play ground.

[tuco]

Me either

[SoVT Joey]

Me either

i guess my reading comprehension is lacking.

[tuco]

Yep.

Got 0 lingering issues w/ the guy! I'd rather ski w/ guy than fight 'em.
And yeah, I agree, we both acted like 6 yr old assholes in that thread

Sorry for thread drift, carry on.....

[Falcon3]

John Wesley Powell must have turned over in his grave when the Colorado River Compact was signed.

How about we exhume his body, throw a magnet on him, wrap his coffin in copper. It’ll create enough green electricity to replace the Glen Canyon Dam.