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07-28-2021, 12:55 PM #251At this point I think it is geo-engineer or 3-4 degrees c of temperature increase by 2125, meters of sea rise, etc.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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07-28-2021, 01:32 PM #252
I’m from the earth day generation. Mad me sad and depressed for years at deforestation and rampant development.
Now I’ve gotten to the fuckit stage. No way to control the human parasites. . .
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07-28-2021, 07:48 PM #253Registered User
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07-28-2021, 08:27 PM #254
Yeah, no one seems to care. Some individuals care. But corporations and governments are pigs at the trough of the final barbecue
I used to feel guilty. But now I just live. I try in small ways to limit my footprint. But I can’t be guilted into suicide if all the rich fuckers in their gulf stream jets (or rockets into space) could care less.. . .
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07-28-2021, 08:55 PM #255
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07-28-2021, 09:00 PM #256
Climate Change
The latest science says we are headed for 3 degrees of warming. Catastrophic, but better than 4. 1.5 is still possible but not at all likely. Recent national pledges would get us to 2.4 - if acted upon, which is a big if. I'm not giving up hope we stay below 2 degrees, but even at that temp shit will be bad. Food and water shortages, fires, droughts, flooding, sea level rise -- all leading to mass migrations that will destabilize nations. Start hoarding cash by 2030. Shits gonna get real.
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07-28-2021, 09:03 PM #257
Climate Change
Yep, we've been geo-engineering for a while and it hasn't worked out all that well. It would be way better to just leave carbon in the ground. The unknown consequences of more geo-engineering are terrifying. And you can bet geo-engineering would be used to benefit some (us) at the expense of others.
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07-29-2021, 09:00 AM #258Registered User
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07-29-2021, 10:40 AM #259
Geo-engineering seems scary and highly uncertain to me. But shit will be changing regardless of what we do. IMO, as part of any solution, the wealthier of the world needs to be ready to adapt and to mobilize and help the displaced. I’m not sure how that will happen in reality.
We could wait for the next several enormous volcanic eruptions that deposit a shit ton of iron into the oceans or a bunch ferns into all the large freshwater waterbodies of the world: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azolla_event
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07-29-2021, 10:59 AM #260
I am with you. Humanity will not do shit until it is beyond to late for most of the planet. You youngsters better be working on your Visa to New Zealand, Australia, the UK or Ireland as I read today those countries will be the least effected by the Climate Catastrophe.
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07-29-2021, 11:01 AM #261
Geo engineering has varying degrees of intervention. Low grade would be reforestation of vast areas of land. High grade is put a solar screen in orbit to filter sunlight. Personally I think we should be doing small scale tests of geo engineering now so we have long running tests to identify unforeseen consequences.
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07-29-2021, 11:48 AM #262
What good will cash do if there’s no government to back it?
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07-29-2021, 01:03 PM #263
Friend of mine--geophysicist recently resigned from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, who does carbon storage projects around the world for a living--says that capture and storage will have marginal impact due to lack of scalability. Better think of something else.
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07-29-2021, 02:52 PM #264
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07-29-2021, 02:54 PM #265
Or they’re losing nothing, you know, fiat currency
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07-31-2021, 01:14 PM #266
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08-01-2021, 12:59 AM #267
The something else is to leave fossil fuels in the ground.
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08-01-2021, 08:24 AM #268
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08-01-2021, 09:47 AM #269Registered User
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The religious breeders will not like that. In fact, very few people will like that at all.
The truth hurts.
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08-01-2021, 10:03 AM #270
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08-01-2021, 01:44 PM #271
Plants (algae are plants) produced all the oxygen in the atmosphere. I read that if all the plants disappeared it would take only about a thousand years for all the free oxygen gas to disappear as the elements oxidized. Trouble is, all the plants can't keep up, and we keep cutting them down.
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08-01-2021, 02:20 PM #272
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08-06-2021, 08:59 AM #273Registered User
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08-06-2021, 09:25 AM #274Registered User
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If you were a billionaire, wouldn’t you want to be on the leading edge of the technological requirements needed to support human life in the future? Having a private space race is not what I’m talking about - that’s probably way, way farther down the line.
Carbon sequestration, more efficient farming practices, etc are what come to mind. We are talking about completely new large scale industries here. If you have the funds available to get out ahead of this stuff, wouldn’t you be doing it?..
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08-08-2021, 10:27 PM #275
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