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Thread: Salomon Mtn tech "Pin" binding
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01-26-2021, 02:00 PM #201
I'm not sure marketing alone is the culprit. I don't think most manufacturers are promoting this type of binding for inbounds use. With retail on touring gear is in the $2000+ range, I think sticker shock alone has a lot of people skiing their lightweight touring skis as a single quiver. I did it for a few seasons when I was living back east and only able to ski a few trips a year because I didn't have space or money or the ability to transport a bunch of gear. I have a friend who ripped his ions out of his skis a few weeks ago. Lucky the screws were the weak link and not his achilles I suppose.
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01-26-2021, 02:34 PM #202
Why they don't go out and directly say "perfect for inbounds use!" heavier tech bindings like the Rotation, Kingpin, and Tecton are definitely marketed to inbounds skiers. Marketing copy emphasizes safety, security, releasability, etc. and they have pro skiers using them inbounds posting photos and videos
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01-26-2021, 02:38 PM #203
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01-26-2021, 03:22 PM #204
Evo's blurb on the Kingpins starts like this:
"Combining the low weight and uphill prowess of a tech binding with the safety and confidence of a downhill binding..."
Tecton blurb:
"...skiing performance to rival much heavier alpine bindings, the Tecton 12 makes using a tech binding for all of your skiing needs a reality."
Dynafit rotation:
"...downhill performance that rivals much beefier bindings for consistency, reliability, and snow feel."
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02-21-2021, 06:35 AM #205Registered User
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02-21-2021, 10:58 AM #206
^ how did that happen?
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02-21-2021, 11:10 AM #207
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02-21-2021, 12:18 PM #208
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02-21-2021, 01:49 PM #209
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02-21-2021, 02:14 PM #210
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02-21-2021, 03:33 PM #211
Don't see how yanking on the lever would do that. I bet spyderjon is right on what happened.
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02-21-2021, 03:38 PM #212Registered User
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that is not connected to the plastic lever at all, its just the detent
unless you can pull so hard on the plastic it hits the detent at the end of its travel ?
I'm betting that tab is suposed to lie flat on the ski and got bent up by the ski flexing ?
I like to put my pole under the lever about half way up the pole and lever it up so i don't have to bend down so farLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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02-22-2021, 02:54 AM #213Registered User
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A pair of demoskis came back with both toes broken, apparently the guy ran both ski-tips straight into a rock and came to a dead stop. So probably the heavy flexing that caused it as spyderjon said. Seems like there has to be extreme amounts of flex though for the aluminium to be bent like this?
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02-22-2021, 07:45 AM #214
is the piece necessary? doesnt look it
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02-22-2021, 01:36 PM #215
It keeps the toe lever locked. Not a big deal if you don't lock your toes, but I guess most people do. The MTN toe springs are strong enough that touring with the toes unlocked is mostly fine though.
An alternative to the tips-into-a-rock hypothesis:
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02-22-2021, 02:29 PM #216Registered User
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the broken part is just the detent for the black plastic lever
you are suposed to lock binding s on for the skin up or the ski is likley to fall off
I havent seen that binding out of the box but I assume it sat flatter on the ski and that detent tab was somehow bent upwards
probably by ski flexLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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02-22-2021, 06:26 PM #217
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02-23-2021, 02:29 AM #218Registered User
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02-24-2021, 09:32 AM #219
It read as if though they released just not before the injury happened. Not meant as a dig because the injury is a total bummer but this doesn't mean the binding didn't perform as intended. Skiing is dangerous for the lower extremities.
For DIN 'in use' testing of bindings if your setting is a 5 it can perform at a 7 and be acceptable. The range goes two settings in either direction. Of course tech bindings don't perform like alpine but a vertical release should be as close of a relatable release they can have. I do think bindings with rolling pins are more consistent than the U pin bindings.a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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02-24-2021, 10:08 AM #220Registered User
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Cody on bindings on gear talk, this one included.
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12-11-2021, 01:40 PM #221Minion
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Hi,
Anybody experience with fixing the floppy heel risers? Using the binding for around 3 years and the lower riser is really loose so it doesn't stay put. Salomon didn't help via the customer-service.
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12-11-2021, 02:30 PM #222
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12-11-2021, 03:42 PM #223
I drilled out the pivot pin and replaced with stainless steel bolt so I can tighten it over time.
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12-11-2021, 08:46 PM #224Registered User
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I love that idea! Noted for when the flop comes!
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01-07-2022, 05:24 PM #225
Bump. Thinking about shuffling some bindings around with BF inserts, namely MTNs to Lotus 138s. I have the version with brakes; do I need to buy some kind of stomp block or something to mount the MTNs brakeless on the 138s?
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