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  1. #3626
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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Riiiiiiiight...that must be why so many moped riders wear blue jeans and full face helmet. They would actually get a decent workout hike a biking if their mopeds didn't have a walk assist mode.
    Based on my time moped-ing, I can get a similar workout on mellow trails and dirt roads - I'm pedaling about a hard as I normally would, I'm just going a lot faster. On steeper and techier trails, the workout isn't even close. I never, ever hit redline on the moped, even in "eco" mode. On an anolog bike, I'm redlined just trying to keep the bike moving up the climb. On the moped, I just kind of slowly grind away with moderate effort.

    Also, I try to exclusively refer to it as a moped. Watching other ebikers get all flustered when I say that is a highlight of any ride.

    Edit: where can I get one of those stickers? I want to put one on my ebike / moped.

  2. #3627
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    Applications are being accepted for the E-bikes are Mopeds club. It's dedicated to raising awareness of this crucial issue that is affecting trail permitting already and will only do so much more as moped use proliferates.

    To my knowledge members of the club have no problem with mopeds being used on motorized trails.

    Membership includes your very own stickers, which will sadly not last long. The mopeders are, as demonstrated often, a sensitive bunch. The idea of putting the stickers behind a piece of thick plexiglass secured with tamper resistant screws has been proposed.
    ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.

  3. #3628
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    I'm just going to chisel it into the Navajo Sandstone, a contemporary petroglyph, if you will.
    Forum Cross Pollinator, gratuitously strident

  4. #3629
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    I want to apply to the club. I only ride the moped on moto legal trails, and I still think they're kind of stupid even though I also have fun on them. So I think my application should be accepted.

  5. #3630
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    Is it too judgemental if I put one on my singlespeed? Or just the right amount. I'd put one on my ebike but I don't have one. Also accepting sweet ebike donations.

  6. #3631
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    Here are some approved sticker placements. PM for more details.Click image for larger version. 

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    ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.

  7. #3632
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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    Applications are being accepted for the E-bikes are Mopeds club. It's dedicated to raising awareness of this crucial issue that is affecting trail permitting already and will only do so much more as moped use proliferates.

    To my knowledge members of the club have no problem with mopeds being used on motorized trails.

    Membership includes your very own stickers, which will sadly not last long. The mopeders are, as demonstrated often, a sensitive bunch. The idea of putting the stickers behind a piece of thick plexiglass secured with tamper resistant screws has been proposed.
    I want to join the club.

    Also, non-ebikes are not "analogue bikes." They're bikes.

  8. #3633
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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    Here are some approved sticker placements. PM for more details.Click image for larger version. 

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    Did I meet you at Peavine last year? I was talking to a guy at the Hoge trailhead about routes on Peavine - guy was from Carson and was planning on riding every trail on Peavine, said he had roughed out a route and it was 60-something miles. He had a big jug of water in his car for refills mid day. And had one of those stickers on his car, which I told him I liked, and I'm pretty sure he said he made them.
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

  9. #3634
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    Haha! That was definitely I. That ride ended up being 65mi and like 11k vert. It was super fun. I'll trade you some stickers for a bike bag one of these days. Also some fiat currency.
    ride bikes, climb, ski, travel, cook, work to fund former, repeat.

  10. #3635
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    I want to join the club.

    Also, non-ebikes are not "analogue bikes." They're bikes.
    Not analog bikes, acoustic bikes.

  11. #3636
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaver View Post
    Not analog bikes or acoustic bikes. Just bikes.
    FIFY

    If they don't have a motor, they're bikes. If they have a motor, they're mopeds. Didn't you read the sticker?

  12. #3637
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    You guys only like the hot girls, huh.

    Personally, I'm far more ecumenical in my romantic interests.

    Moped
    A person of the opposite sex who is not attractive, but you would have sex with.
    "She's a moped: She'd be fun to ride, but I wouldn't want any of my friends seeing me on her."
    Variety is the spice of life; don't be a prude.

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    sproing!

  13. #3638
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    The acoustic or analog label is insane. They’re bikes. Once Tesla/ev came out did we start call cars something different?


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  14. #3639
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    Stand together and you might win the sticker wars!
    Never stop reminding everyone that you’re better at whatever.


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    However many are in a shit ton.

  15. #3640
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    Stand together and you might win the sticker wars!
    Never stop reminding everyone that you’re better at whatever.


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    They are staying out of your E-bike circle jerk and you are still butthurt.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

    "Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"

  16. #3641
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    Stand together and you might win the sticker wars!
    Never stop reminding everyone that you’re better at whatever.


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    What's wrong with riding a moped?

  17. #3642
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTskibum View Post
    The acoustic or analog label is insane. They’re bikes. Once Tesla/ev came out did we start call cars something different?


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    Well, the acronym ICE has become ubiquitous...
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  18. #3643
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Well, the acronym ICE has become ubiquitous...


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  19. #3644
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    When I eventually get an ebike, I'm totally putting an "ebikes are mopeds" sticker on the toptube, to trigger all the fat guys wearing jeans, lazily spinning their bow legs with seat halfway down.

  20. #3645
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    When I eventually get an ebike, I'm totally putting an "ebikes are mopeds" sticker on the toptube, to trigger all the fat guys wearing jeans, lazily spinning their bow legs with seat halfway down.
    This is *exactly* what I'm going to do when the time comes as well...

  21. #3646
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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    Haha! That was definitely I. That ride ended up being 65mi and like 11k vert. It was super fun. I'll trade you some stickers for a bike bag one of these days. Also some fiat currency.
    Small world!
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

  22. #3647
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    This is *exactly* what I'm going to do when the time comes as well...
    I think the sticker needs to include a pink Vespa as well.

  23. #3648
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    I think the sticker needs to include a pink Vespa as well.
    The term "moped" has been misapplied to Vespas, which are scooters.

    A mo-ped is a 2 wheeler with a motor and pedals. The OG is a Puchs, but pedal-actuated e-bikes (as opposed to those with a throttle, which are scooters) fit right into that lineage. Obviously the triggered mopeders will quibble with this, but the idea behind the sticker is to raise awareness that e-bikes are not bicycles, but rather mopeds.

    As a side note, USFS has finally clarified its definitions, and it couldn't be more clear:

    "Bicycle. A pedal-driven, solely human-powered device, with two wheels attached to a frame, one behind the other." Emphasis is mine.

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  24. #3649
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    This is *exactly* what I'm going to do when the time comes as well...
    In. Can't wait to tell tell everyone how awesome my moped is.

  25. #3650
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    My moped’s drivetrain literally grenaded at 30mph a few weeks ago.
    I pedaled it home.
    There’s nothing that drops more panties than a fat old man in a high viz jacket and motorcycle helmet sweating balls pedaling those goofy little moped cranks on his broken-down moped back through the same neighborhood he just buzzed through. Easy, ladies…there’s plenty to go around!

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