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10-10-2019, 05:34 PM #1651
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10-10-2019, 05:42 PM #1652
No argument on the reverb. And their drivetrains are fine, but leave plenty of room for improvement.
But guides have better modulation than xt's, better adjustability than xt's, and sram has the best bleed system in the industry. Which isn't to say they don't still have their problems, but they're still waaay better than any shimano brake I've ever ridden. And codes are better than guides, so there's that.
The only thing shimanos are better at is locking up your wheels when you shouldn't / don't want to.
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10-10-2019, 06:21 PM #1653
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10-10-2019, 06:35 PM #1654
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10-10-2019, 10:35 PM #1655
FFS. Get some Maguras and end the bullshit already. Smells like Panaracer vs. Hutchinson in here.
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10-11-2019, 07:15 AM #1656
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10-11-2019, 07:25 AM #1657
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10-11-2019, 07:46 AM #1658Registered User
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Maguras ain’t perfect either. The torx 10 course thread wood screw at the bleed port is easy to strip when threading into their plastic lever (although Magura claims this plastic is some type of hybrid carbon.) And their 4 piston calipers take 4 individual tiny pads. My opinion is the best current alternative to Sram or Shimano is Hayes Dominion A4’s. Those are truly impressive for a number of reasons.
I think Hutchinson is still making pretty good tires, you just don’t see them too much. Plus, they were one of the early pioneers of true tubeless so, respect...
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10-11-2019, 08:15 AM #1659Registered User
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Maguras are squishy and use silly little brake pads (on the 4 piston models) but they're reliable and fairly powerful. Guides can be a little bit squishy but not so much so that I would change them out. I hate the on/off thing with most Shimano brakes but their reliability is pretty damned good and when you're miles out from the trailhead that's important so I'll put up with it. I run Shimano brakes on my simple hardtail but 4 piston SRAM brakes on my fatty and e-mtb because they need more power and better modulation.
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10-11-2019, 08:15 AM #1660
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10-11-2019, 09:37 AM #1661Registered User
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I'm also on Maguras (MT7s, also have MT5s and have run MT Trail Sports). I previously ran XT M785s (experienced wandering bite point and on/off), and briefly Code RSCs (experienced fade, don't like the really long lever). As long as I have a good bleed on the Maguras, I find them to be extremely consistent. I find their lever feel to be somewhere in between Codes and XTs... bite sooner and more definitively than Codes, but later and less aggressively than XTs. I did manage to strip the bleed port screw once on my first bleed, before I learned to RTFM and pay attention to their torque ratings. Basically all it takes to torque that screw is roll your torx allen between your thumb and forefinger as far as you can before your fingers slip. I did break the MC housing once in a crash, but Magura USA sent me a complete new brake assembly in 2 days. Their bleed process is a bit more finicky, but if I'm able to do it (can't reliably adjust drivetrain), most home mechanics should be able to.
What's the concern with the 4 individual pads? With 4 cylinders of any form, you have to take care to align the caliper front & back, and make sure that the pistons stay clean so they engage evenly.
A bunch of the local guys are XTR fans, on the latest version. I've overheard them quietly still complaining about wandering bite and fade. At the end of the same steep few minute trail, you could tell who's using XTRs blindfolded, by the stink of their pads.
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10-11-2019, 10:40 AM #1662
Hello is this the bi-monthly discussion on mountain bike brake performance?
I have two more bikes to add to my reference points. Oh wait they are road disc brakes so I guess I'll wait until the discussion goes there....
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10-11-2019, 10:44 AM #1663
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10-11-2019, 10:59 AM #1664
Maguras can use 4 pads or 2 on the 4-piston calipers. If you don't find an advantage to 4 then that's your call, get the ones with a connected backing plate. If you find them squishy they need a bleed. Which is rare unless you let the pads get too thin/start adding fluid instead of replacing pads--don't do that. Or overtorque stuff. Apart from that they seem to go multiple seasons with nothing but pad changes. And they use mineral oil.
In average running condition the levers feel a lot like Guides for very light braking. But the power ramps up quicker on the Maguras. Always takes me a little while to get used to Guides again; first couple of hard stops can be kinda scary.
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10-11-2019, 11:35 AM #1665mental projection
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Back onto the topic of rants. Anterior shin laceration from an "incident" last month, just about healed up. Riding my flats last night, slide out on some loose rocks in a creek bottom and rake my anterior shin on my flat pedals where my laceration was healing up. Damnit.
Back to the bi-monthly brake talk. Hayes brakes suck, my experience has been nothing but horrible with those. OTOH, my experience with Hope's has been great, although finicky to setup they provide great modulation and power, but I haven't used those for a while.
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10-11-2019, 11:37 AM #1666Registered User
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10-11-2019, 11:46 AM #1667www.dpsskis.com
www.point6.com
formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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10-11-2019, 11:50 AM #1668
I've had much better luck with XTs than any of the Code iterations I've run.
www.dpsskis.com
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formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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10-11-2019, 11:54 AM #1669
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10-11-2019, 12:06 PM #1670
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10-11-2019, 12:20 PM #1671
I still have some hayes 9's on my dirt jumper. So, to their credit, they still work ok after 15(?) years.
But yeah, they suck. Zero power, bad lever shape, etc. No way I'd run those things on a bike where stopping actually matters.
No opinions on the new hayes stuff. Haven't tried it yet.
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10-11-2019, 12:47 PM #1672mental projection
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10-11-2019, 01:00 PM #1673
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10-12-2019, 09:22 AM #1674
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10-12-2019, 09:25 AM #1675
Now show us your 0.5 nm one.
Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
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