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  1. #7001
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    Regarding i9 hubs

    I've been bitching about my I9 Hydra hub for a while now. I bought into the hype a couple years back, thought it would be cool to have a blingy hub with 7833 poes and sound like a giant pack of angry hornets... Well, not so, the thing is heavy, draggy as all fuck, and eats bearings for lunch. I spin the wheel as hard as I can and it goes through maybe 10 revolutions before stopping.
    I believe Sheldon Brown once pointed out that drag doesn't matter if you're coasting; if you wanted to be going faster, you'd be peddling.

  2. #7002
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    So, finally got a bike for wifey with AXS/transition drivetrain.
    So, the freakin derailluer battery charger uses Micro-USB?
    WTH?

    Is this 2010?

    So strange.
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  3. #7003
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    I didn’t see Sheldon spending much time on a pump track when he was alive…

  4. #7004
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    On mobile, I went to an activity that had the AI bullshit. Clicked on it. At the bottom was an option to withdraw (or similar) from the beta. Good riddance.

  5. #7005
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    Anyone else have to change their password out of the blue on Strava?
    It seemed fishy.
    (No, I didn’t click on any email links).
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  6. #7006
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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    We've got a guy here in Socal who goes and rides remote backcountry trails that are on TF and always writes comments in various flavors of "trail was unrideable, it should not be on TF". Shit for brains, that is what the trail reports are for. If these trails aren't on TF no one will no they are there, and no one will ever go and fix them up.
    This bugs me too. And when people don’t distinguish between status and condition and change the status to “significant issue” when reporting that the trail is wet.

  7. #7007
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    So, finally got a bike for wifey with AXS/transition drivetrain.
    So, the freakin derailluer battery charger uses Micro-USB?
    WTH?
    Is this 2010?
    So strange.
    Buy an amazon one with a USB-C.

  8. #7008
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHerm View Post
    On mobile, I went to an activity that had the AI bullshit. Clicked on it. At the bottom was an option to withdraw (or similar) from the beta. Good riddance.
    Just found it... you have to click the "Give Feedback" link and then opt out. Success!

  9. #7009
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddocky View Post
    I believe Sheldon Brown once pointed out that drag doesn't matter if you're coasting; if you wanted to be going faster, you'd be peddling.
    I'm not worried about maintaining speed while coasting, I'm not going fast in the first place. I'm concerned about any amount of added resistance when slogging up 2000' of dirt road. Kinda like a brake pad rubbing on a rotor, no reason not to fix that shit and it just makes your life a tiny bit harder...
    "Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise

  10. #7010
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    Buy an amazon one with a USB-C.
    I’m not sure it bothers me enough to spend $25 on, though….
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  11. #7011
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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive_MT View Post
    This bugs me too. And when people don’t distinguish between status and condition and change the status to “significant issue” when reporting that the trail is wet.
    Unless "wet" is a significant issue : )

    My issue with these is missing condition categories that would be very useful. They seem to have winter well covered. But conditions for "overgrown" and "downed trees" and maybe "damaged tread" would be useful across much of the west. Colors for Dry and Very dry seem to connotate these as negative conditions when Dry and Very Dry are just normal for us. Very Dry is only really an issue on steep trails that get very slippery when dry/dusty.

    And force people to write at least a few words description when they select any status other than Clear/Open. It's annoying to look at some seldom ridden trail and all you see is an amber / significant issue status but no description of what the issue is and whether it is temporary like wet trails that will eventually dry up, or if it is something that will make the trail hard to use like downed trees or massive erosion.

  12. #7012
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    Also, looks like their elevation profiles are fubar'd on the web version (seems fine on mobile)

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  13. #7013
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    Trying to replace the bearings in my rear DT350 and the ring nut won't budge, even with 2 guys twisting the rim with the ring nut tool in a vise. Whoever designed this is an idiot (pedaling forces tighten it).

  14. #7014
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    Heat up the hub shell a bit. My exp ring (which has the bearing pressed into it) came off pretty easy after I lightly warmed it up with a little butane torch.

    Also on a 350 does the ring need to come out to remove the bearing? e- according to the service manual after 2015 they made the DS bearing smaller to allow it to fit through the ring.
    Last edited by jamal; 10-24-2024 at 09:54 AM.

  15. #7015
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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Also, looks like their elevation profiles are fubar'd on the web version (seems fine on mobile)

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    That's not screwed up it's just a drop to flat!

  16. #7016
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamal View Post
    Heat up the hub shell a bit. My exp ring (which has the bearing pressed into it) came off pretty easy after I lightly warmed it up with a little butane torch.
    I like to put the tool in the vice, heat the tool up, and then turn the wheel like boat captain.
    Heating the tool provides enough thermal transfer to loosen it up the ratchet ring. Less chance of toasting (literally) your hub.

  17. #7017
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    Won't that mostly only heat up the ring and make it tighter in the shell?

  18. #7018
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    ^ I hear your theory, and it makes sense. Keeping with that theory we shouldn’t heat the bolt that’s stuck, but only heat the nut?
    The bolt is already constrained so it will expand in the direction of least constraint. The bolt will elongate and not expand in girth.

    I know is a DT Swiss service tech told me to avoid heating the hub and possibly damaging it.
    “It doesn’t take much heat to get the ring moving, so just heat the tool”

  19. #7019
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy View Post
    That's not screwed up it's just a dorp to falt!
    FIFY circa 2001


    Looks like whatever the issue was has been resolved

  20. #7020
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamal View Post
    Heat up the hub shell a bit. My exp ring (which has the bearing pressed into it) came off pretty easy after I lightly warmed it up with a little butane torch.

    Also on a 350 does the ring need to come out to remove the bearing? e- according to the service manual after 2015 they made the DS bearing smaller to allow it to fit through the ring.
    I have a 2021+ DT350 hub and the drive side bearing is a 6902. Definitely won't fit through the ring nut.

  21. #7021
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    I like to put the tool in the vice, heat the tool up, and then turn the wheel like boat captain.
    Heating the tool provides enough thermal transfer to loosen it up the ratchet ring. Less chance of toasting (literally) your hub.
    Thanks, this is a good idea. At this point I may just take it to a shop, they'll replace the bearings for $40 in labor.

  22. #7022
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    Quote Originally Posted by meepmoop24 View Post
    Trying to replace the bearings in my rear DT350 and the ring nut won't budge, even with 2 guys twisting the rim with the ring nut tool in a vise. Whoever designed this is an idiot (pedaling forces tighten it).
    DT350's need bearing replacements? Pretty sure mine will last through the apocalypse without any maintenance.

  23. #7023
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    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon3 View Post
    DT350's need bearing replacements? Pretty sure mine will last through the apocalypse without any maintenance.
    I've always read this but the hub bearings in mine are notchy after 2 seasons. Meanwhile I have a set of Hydras on their 5th season and the bearings are fine.

  24. #7024
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    Oh, FFS.

    At this point, it reminds me of vinyl furniture covers.
    But I guess with many bikes being North of 10K, resale value dreams still exist?


    https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ridewr...tion-kits.html
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  25. #7025
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    <snip> resale value dreams still exist?
    Only amongst the delusional...

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