Anyone have anything they'd like to rant about?

[zion zig zag]

The only way this story could be better is if he was riding an ebike in jeans with no helmet.

He was in cut off jean shorts! He was on a pretty fancy Santa Cruz, but since he didn't even know how or when to use a dropper post, I have to assume it was a rental. The trail is shuttle-able, so I also assume he did that.

[Meconium]

carbon rim, sounds like rocks rolling around. This was my second cleaning, need to now do a 3rd. (Specialized/Rovel)

[Meconium]

believe its carbon, not sealant

[Andeh]

carbon rim, sounds like rocks rolling around. This was my second cleaning, need to now do a 3rd. (Specialized/Rovel)

I found something similar on a buddy's wheels (old LB carbon ones). My conclusion was that it was a result of shitty rim tape allowing sealant to get inside the rim, coupled with dust getting in around the spoke nipples and valve stem. Sealant mixed with dust, created little pebbles.

[Meconium]

It's weird because I don't lose air. I bang the naked rim on the carpet as hard as I'm willing, bang and shop vac with tiny tube for 30min. Install tire and bounce on floor extra hard and more marbles.

[evdog]

Surrons.
Fuck. These. Things.

We have Surrons and talarias and Super73s and all kinds of other e-motos running amok all over town here. The kids ride them to school, doing wheelies up and down busy roads, darting in and out of traffic and running red lights, and riding on bike paths and community trails, you name it. The scary ones are the ones without lights after dark. You can't see them and they appear out of nowhere.

They're all over our trails too. I see new channels in my YT feed all the time showing big group rides in our local parks. And fresh dirt bike tracks on local trails every time I'm out. A lot of riders have upgraded their bikes with more powerful motors/electronics and full size moto tires making them full size electric dirt bikes, and they ride them like they are full size dirt bikes. Recent example below. Unfortunately the city shows little interest in trying to stop them. It will take a trail user getting run over and killed before they will lift a finger.

[TBS]

^^^Are they riding illegally or just being douchebags?

If illegally, that guy at like 1:20 is kinda incriminating himself…

[joetron]

Playa Bikes.
Pro Tip: When arriving home after your sweet spiritual journey, give your bike a little rinse and consider fixing the issues so it’s ready for next year. Then you won’t have to bring your disgusting clapped out burner bike to a shop the week before you leave on yet another spiritual journey after 11.5 months of sitting your shed, rotting in playa dust. NCYGTBM.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[evdog]

^^^Are they riding illegally or just being douchebags?

If illegally, that guy at like 1:20 is kinda incriminating himself…

Both illegal and douchebag. This is a city open space park. Non-motorized only. And all the rich people who live surrounding it already complain to the city every time they see bikes with bright lights riding around in the dark.

And yeah this guy is clueless. In his other videos he reps his tattoo shop, so he wouldn't be easy to track down. Unfortunately the city's policy is that rangers or police have to catch someone in the act to prosecute. Video self incrimination isn't enough for some reason. Seems to work fine for crimes like murder though?

[One (+) Sentence]

Playa Bikes.
Pro Tip: When arriving home after your sweet spiritual journey, give your bike a little rinse and consider fixing the issues so it’s ready for next year. Then you won’t have to bring your disgusting clapped out burner bike to a shop the week before you leave on yet another spiritual journey after 11.5 months of sitting your shed, rotting in playa dust. NCYGTBM.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

Yes! And there’s also usually a certain level of confusion that the bike needs anything at all… yet there it is, in the bike shop.

Really, they’re just seeking your blessing for the next journey.

[Falcon3]

Video self incrimination isn't enough for some reason. Seems to work fine for crimes like murder though?

Many states have a type of misdemeanor presence law where anything lower than a felony must be witnessed directly by an officer

[jamal]

i got stung by a bee yesterday on my ride to work

[Bunion 2020]

Yes! And there’s also usually a certain level of confusion that the bike needs anything at all… yet there it is, in the bike shop.

Really, they’re just seeking your blessing for the next journey.

How very Zen.

[joetron]

Yes! And there’s also usually a certain level of confusion that the bike needs anything at all… yet there it is, in the bike shop.

Really, they’re just seeking your blessing for the next journey.

This is very true.

I do have one rad customer who brought his xtracycle in and said “Do whatever it needs.I load it up and can leave camp for a day or two, so I need this shit to work.”

I appreciate this.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[smmokan]

With the launch of the new Bronson yesterday.... frames that don't allow cable routing. First Specialized, now Santa Cruz (although I know they have it on the lower-end "C" frame).

My conspiratorial thinking is that SRAM is incentivizing these companies to ditch cable routing, either by lower bulk pricing or by subsidizing the design and manufacturing of the newly-released frames.

[SchralphMacchio]

With the launch of the new Bronson yesterday.... frames that don't allow cable routing. First Specialized, now Santa Cruz (although I know they have it on the lower-end "C" frame).

My conspiratorial thinking is that SRAM is incentivizing these companies to ditch cable routing, either by lower bulk pricing or by subsidizing the design and manufacturing of the newly-released frames.

But they only ever offered the 4.1 CC complete builds with XO AXS anyways, and I presume that bare frame sales are such a small portion of their sales. If the CC frames use a different layup and different manufacturing cell - in other words, different standard work - and people are buying them either because it’s lighter weight than the C frame or because they want the dentist builds, then why not also shed even more weight by losing the cable routing?

I probably would have done the same if I were product manager. It’s not like they went to a PF bottom bracket!

[Andeh]

Someone on Vital speculated that a big part of that trend is probably cheaper bike assembly costs at the factory. It probably makes the frame layup a little bit cheaper too. Look at how few brands really do true tube-in-tube internal routing. I remember reading an article or hearing a podcast with Dustin Adams from WAO who said that making molded internal routing tubes without weakening the frame in the area was really, really, really hard, and that's why they didn't do it for the Arrival. He said during development, they went around to a bunch of shops and asked for warrantied frames, then cut them up to look at that sort of stuff.

Solution really is to ditch internal routing and just go back to external (minus dropper). Make some clean looking covers for the external cable guides or make them removable for the clean look.

[SchralphMacchio]

And the last company that tried that is now defunct?

[skaredshtles]

Fuck 'em.

I'd just run cables with a bunch of ugly-ass zip ties.

[nickwm21]

It’s lazy. Disguised as something else. But just lazy product management.


Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

[Touring_Sedan]

My car doesn't have a 12V outlet. Bullshit! I'm sure GM will go out of business because of this.

[skaredshtles]

My car doesn't have a 12V outlet. Bullshit! I'm sure GM will go out of business because of this.

Not even in the cargo area? WTF??

[bamboocoreONLY]

And the last company that tried that is now defunct?

That GG cable cover was almost more of a pain in the ass to deal with than internal routing, cool idea though.

I for one, have zero issues with internal routing, but I also have a shop and the right tools at my disposal so I'm biased.

[TBS]

My rant is about asshole eco-warriors who lie to advance their preservationist agenda (and monetize their “advocacy”)

We have a guy here who is trying to shut down the addition of three downhill/flow trails in our existing trail system. The comment period ended last September.

His basis for stopping the project at this late date - he put up a game cam last month near one of the proposed trails, which caught two cougars, a black bear and several deer.

He went to our local paper with this amazing revelation, claiming a NEPA study is required. The reporter (a nice, ignorant & lazy retired guy) drank up his koolaid like it was 24yo single malt.

Several salient facts were left out of the news article:
- there’s been a family of cougars living near the camera for at least the 12 years I’ve ridden here. You regularly see their tracks on the Hello Kitty Connector trail.

- i regularly see black bear shit in the trails. Saw elk shit last Sunday. See coyotes too.

- The deer are thick in summer. I had a near-collision last week hauling ass on a downhill section and four ambled across the trail.

- The game cam was located 50’ off a paved road to a major recreation area, next to an existing 140 mile backcountry equestrian & MTB thoroughfare. It’s part of the Oregon Timber Trail.

The local MTB community is pissed off - three letters to editor this week calling out the lies/distortions, others are sending in more over the next two weeks.

Unfortunately we have to deal with Brandolini’s Law
which I have found to be an integral weapon in the eco-warrior arsenal.

Fuckheads

[skaredshtles]

<snip>
Unfortunately we have to deal with Brandolini’s Law
which I have found to be an integral weapon in the eco-warrior arsenal.

Holy shit - thank you for this. I'm going to invoke this liberally(heh) going forward.