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    Wasting your breath on this crowd. Perfect examples of privileged dickbags that will never check their privilege.

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    i didn't waste any breath. i posted an article that is troubling and ironic and relevant to many if not most of the problems facing the u.s. in myriad ways. the easily antipicated reaction is one more manifestation of the problem and why we're going nowhere. i don't post to provoke anything but thought and conversation.

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    I checked a few petitions my last time at Fred Meyer. None mentioned privilege.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    From attached article:

    Liberal blacks in Portland, OR, don’t want a Trader Joe’s making their neighborhood more desirable. These same blacks complained that a Trader Joe’s would bring too many white people to the hood.

    Do I really need to ask what would happen if a group of whites didn’t want a business that brought lots of black people to their neighborhoods? And those hypothetical white people would have hard, cold statistics on their side.

    I’m not saying whites are better than blacks. But what I am saying is given the choice of having my home in a black neighborhood vs a white neighborhood, I choose the white neighborhood. At least if I want to sell my house for a profit.

    While most communities welcome opportunities that will drive up home prices, black Liberals in Portland (and everywhere else) seem to love the PayDay loans stores, bail bondsmen, liquor stores, and run-down bodegas.

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    I was surprised to find the ghetto is now on SE 122nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    From attached article:

    Liberal blacks in Portland, OR, don’t want a Trader Joe’s making their neighborhood more desirable. These same blacks complained that a Trader Joe’s would bring too many white people to the hood.

    Do I really need to ask what would happen if a group of whites didn’t want a business that brought lots of black people to their neighborhoods? And those hypothetical white people would have hard, cold statistics on their side.

    I’m not saying whites are better than blacks. But what I am saying is given the choice of having my home in a black neighborhood vs a white neighborhood, I choose the white neighborhood. At least if I want to sell my house for a profit.

    While most communities welcome opportunities that will drive up home prices, black Liberals in Portland (and everywhere else) seem to love the PayDay loans stores, bail bondsmen, liquor stores, and run-down bodegas.
    i'm sorry, does the colon mean you're quoting the article? or was that your version of this:

    One incident captures how residents are failing to hear one another or have any sympathy for one another: In 2014, Trader Joe’s was in negotiations to open a new store in Albina. The Portland Development Commission, the city’s urban-renewal agency, offered the company a steep discounton a patch of land to entice them to seal the deal. But the Portland African American Leadership Forum wrote a letter protesting the development, arguing that the Trader Joe’s was the latest attempt to profit from the displacement of African Americans in the city. By spending money incentivizing Trader Joe’s to locate in the area, the city was creating further gentrification without working to help locals stay in the neighborhood, the group argued. Trader Joe’s pulled out of the plan, and people in Portland and across the country scorned the black community for opposing the retailer.

    Imarisha, Bates, and others say that during that incident, critics of the African American community failed to take into account the history of Albina, which saw black families and businesses displaced again and again when whites wanted to move in. That history was an important and ignored part of the story. “People are like, ‘Why do you bring up this history? It’s gone, it’s in the past, it’s dead.” Imarisha said. “While the mechanisms may have changed, if the outcome is the same, then actually has anything changed? Obviously that ideology of a racist white utopia is still very much in effect.”

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    which was preceded by:

    The inability of blacks to get mortgages to buy homes in Albina led, once again, to the further decimation of the black community, Gibson argues. Homes were abandoned, and residents couldn’t get mortgages to buy them and fix them up. As more and more houses fell into decay, values plummeted, and those who could left the neighborhood. By the 1980s, the value of homes in Albina reached 58 percent of the city’s median.

    “In Portland, there is evidence supporting the notion that housing market actors helped sections of the Albina District reach an advanced stage of decay, making the area ripe for reinvestment,” she writes.

    and a bunch of other shit. those silly liberal blacks just don't get it.

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    The Racist History of Portland, the Whitest City in America

    The liberal Portland blacks fighting Trader Joe's are just like you spook. Anything that makes others more successful pushes you down another notch and you resent it.

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    Has anyone polled the people of Troutdale or Clackamas?
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Has anyone polled the people of Troutdale or Clackamas?
    I lived in Troutdale for years. Worked at MHCC. I liked it a lot. Mel Renfro II worked for me.

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    i doubt very much your so-called liberal blacks would think i'm just like them and i would never claim to speak for them, but paving over decades of institutional racism that allowed white people to be the ones who paved over it and profit might not be their version of problem solved.

    you could not be clearer about your bias -- and i say that gently because we're all buddies here -- or your intellectual dishonesty. i realize i'm just a jobless parasite but even someone as lowly as me expected a little more from you. i'm just so grateful i didn't buy your clubs. horrible vibes for me.

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    My actions speak for me. Like the first job I got the kid from high school or my 20 year staff members making a great living. I offer no apology. I harbor no guilt. None.

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    nobody said you did you big tough self made man you. your words speak for you, too.

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    The Racist History of Portland, the Whitest City in America

    Everyone's a bigot. No ones perfect

    https://youtu.be/AdZGfNMY2Cw

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    you, me, them, everybody


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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Well if that is racist them I guess I'm guilty because I'm always picking the brains of people in line if I see them buying a fruit or veggie that is interesting which in my town generally means it's not something the average white American eats (our stores stock a lot of fresh items from south of the border).

    For instance I'm fascinated by those big cactus leaves and have often wanted to try them. I was behind a woman one day who was buying a number of them so I asked her how she prepares them and what they are like. She seemed happy to discuss it with me but then I guess, if you go by the above, I'm a blind racist and couldn't see I was being offensive.
    This is something I like about driving people around. I listen to conversations all day long and older people do not seem to mind any kind of question/compliment/comment as long as it is obviously friendly and well intended.

    I mean, an African American woman who lives in public housing and obviously had a rough life answering questions and enjoying a conversation about her hair with a couple uppity white women... ? is that possible? It is if she isn't self conscious about her hair!

    Its funny but it seems like older people have a better grasp on things... honest interest in a person or person's culture shouldn't be offensive, should it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    Down here in Eugene it's also racist as fuck. My sur name is Portuguese or "Iberian" and I'm mostly Scandinavian but I can't tell you how many times I have been discriminated against or called beaner or some other slur.

    On the positive side I was accepted into the minority clicks... so I had that going for me. Which was nice.

    A lot of confederate flags and trump stickers as well.

    Also quite a bit of anti-Semitic types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    Well if that is racist them I guess I'm guilty because I'm always picking the brains of people in line if I see them buying a fruit or veggie that is interesting which in my town generally means it's not something the average white American eats (our stores stock a lot of fresh items from south of the border).

    For instance I'm fascinated by those big cactus leaves and have often wanted to try them. I was behind a woman one day who was buying a number of them so I asked her how she prepares them and what they are like. She seemed happy to discuss it with me but then I guess, if you go by the above, I'm a blind racist and couldn't see I was being offensive.
    I like them with eggs, or lightly pickled, or grilled. Kinda like okra, they get real slimy. But nice and crunchy even after being cooked. Honestly if you're in the right communities they are some of the cheapest veggies and a are pretty good

    Use leather gloves, a y peeler, or flame to get rid of most of the needles.
    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    The Opuntia cacti are all over our 'hood in SD. I like em with eggs. The fruit is also edible and is called a prickly pear.
    Or tunas depending on the crowd. If you have spares and get em to Eugene I might drive down for them. Around Fresno I used to stop at people's houses with my grandfather or great uncles and offer to harvest them and take them with us
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    so, just me & viva id as swarthy?
    I'm not at all swarthy but my half my family is. Not sure what happened to me
    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    i didn't waste any breath. i posted an article that is troubling and ironic and relevant to many if not most of the problems facing the u.s. in myriad ways. the easily antipicated reaction is one more manifestation of the problem and why we're going nowhere. i don't post to provoke anything but thought and conversation.
    I'd forgotten about this article. It's old news man. Months old!

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    yes, pdx had a tough summer of weirdness between this and lead drinking water at pps. i think there may have been another assertion of portland being blindingly white around the same time. i forgot about the article because i was in or around utah when it came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    yes, pdx had a tough summer of weirdness between this and lead drinking water at pps. i think there may have been another assertion of portland being blindingly white around the same time. i forgot about the article because i was in or around utah when it came out.
    Don't forget the heavy metal in the moss! I think it was from a glass plant or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I lived in Troutdale for years.
    This one time in Troutdale I met up with Buzzworthy at the Edgefield McMenamins. He had flown into PDX that morning, rented a car and was off to somewhere or another on business. He drank three pints of beer in about an hour and then drove off. I forget to where. This was a Sunday afternoon, and afterwards, whilst heading back home, I checked out a few open houses. I met a fairly hot realtor hosting at one of the opens, and we got along. A week later we went out and I ended up nailing her. BUZZ!!! You ma Nigga!
    Daniel Ortega eats here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    This is something I like about driving people around. I listen to conversations all day long and older people do not seem to mind any kind of question/compliment/comment as long as it is obviously friendly and well intended.

    I mean, an African American woman who lives in public housing and obviously had a rough life answering questions and enjoying a conversation about her hair with a couple uppity white women... ? is that possible? It is if she isn't self conscious about her hair!

    Its funny but it seems like older people have a better grasp on things... honest interest in a person or person's culture shouldn't be offensive, should it?
    You're still a stupid cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    What if Ray Nagin does it?
    You are not going to win with this crowd. Living in their lily white ski towns they probably don't remember his "Chocolate City" Speech. You know after countless people both white and black spent billions of $$ and millions of hours to clean up his city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughboyshredder View Post
    You're still a stupid cunt.
    Really? I think that was uncalled for. What a pussy.

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    what does ray nagin have to do with a story about racism in pdx?

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