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10-09-2016, 08:03 AM #26
Well Eric you`ll be skiing until you`re a hundred then!
Any chance we can see a bit more edits on the Raven though? I realize that pow-shots are the money edits, but it would be nice to see them get some screen time. It is surprisingly little information on the Ravens online (reviews, etc).
Keep up the good work, I think some TGR techies are preparing for a broke future after your work in progress post.
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10-09-2016, 08:30 AM #27Registered User
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10-09-2016, 09:54 AM #28Registered User
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Since you bring it up one had to suspect he didn't work on the Khion ... something about the elegant design that didn't work.
I sold my Mercury's & upgraded to new vulcans for like 85$ soon as I heard the Khion was coming
Cuz I was worried about finding the next bootLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-09-2016, 10:34 AM #29u
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A bit off topic, but since we are talking about modifying Vulcans... Vulcans are the best AT boot I've ever had, I just wish they were a bit stiffer without the tongues. I hate screwing around with the removable tongues, and they are just a bit too soft for my taste without the tongues. Ive got an intuition liner in them with helps and a big ass power strap with a buckle on it (like the new ones come with). It just seems like the front of the shell is a bit low without the tongue. Would putting a driver plate or something like that on them help? Any other ideas?
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10-09-2016, 11:21 AM #31Registered User
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Yeah I agree exactly^^ something about how the boot skis with out the tongue I don't like as much and fucking with the tongues can be a pain so I don't take the tongue s out unless it's Gona be longer than an hr
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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10-09-2016, 12:09 PM #32
Dude!
firstly... EPIC skiing! so stoked to see your edits all the time.
secondly, we very very much appreciate the insight into the gear. please keep it up!
Myself I've become an unintentional copycat, most commonly using vulcans, beasts, Rens and Hojis (and planning to get Ravens); and also tinkering with it all to tailor it all best for me. I've tried tons of other stuff but I've come back to the gear you make as the stuff that works for me. So keep up the innovations!! Especially around here - we're all very appreciative.
And keep shredding and filming it for us!
Hopefully see you around whistler! Beers on me.
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10-09-2016, 12:24 PM #33Registered User
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for respecting my request, I really appreciated it and please feel free to continue discussing the boots here.
I am stoked you noticed, my goal was/it to start building some anticipation for this new project with the core users that actually pay attention and that will use it for its intended purpose.
I am a big fan of the instep buckle design for ski touring boots and specifically with a ratchet style buckle that allows instantaneous tension adjustments with one hand. I have a couple pairs of Raichle ratchet buckles that are almost as old as I am (modified of course) and they have been working very well for me for the past couple years. I have been pushing for this style of instep strap/ratchet buckle for a while so we will what happens...
Thanks,
Hoji
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10-09-2016, 12:25 PM #34Registered User
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Hoji, I suspect you're long gone but on the off chance you're still checking in: do you have any tips for those of us who are mechanically-inclined, have access to a machine shop, and want to mod cabrio touring boots like the Vulcan to ski more like alpine/race boots? I'm sure we could all learn from your experience.
I love the Vulcan. With the instep buckle, the heel hold is amazing. I always thought I'd get blisters on big days, but no more. I've added a booster strap and powerwrap plug liners. They ski pretty well, but the flex is not progressive and it bottoms out when skiing hard (even with the tongue). By that, I mean I hit the end of my ankle ROM.
This thread has me thinking I'll try to find a second pair of Vulcans for cheap to mod out. I'm thinking I could cut and rivet the upper from an extra pair of Scorpion 130s to make it stiffer, and maybe throw a Dalbello B tongue or Full Tilt #10 tongue instead of the stock tongue. Not sure if that would make them more progressive or not. I was planning to do something similar to a pair of Atomic Backlands for my girl, but now I'm realizing that it'd probably be better to work out the process on my boots first. (The Backland fits her better than any other touring boot on the market but she doesn't need it to be so light, hence the idea of modding it.)Last edited by auvgeek; 10-09-2016 at 02:38 PM.
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10-09-2016, 01:45 PM #35
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10-09-2016, 04:16 PM #36"...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."
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10-13-2016, 02:54 PM #37Registered User
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hello
about the foward flex
- Soft shoes ( under 120 or 120)
slight and medium flex good for the greater part of the skiers but flabbiness and lack of support for strong supports. the flex goes too far and the shell tends to collapse.

- Stiff shoes ( 130 to hell)
strong support to massive energy with progressive flex stop, accuracy and responsiveness but tolerates only the powerful and technical skiers (wrapped and perfect control of pelvis position: the key of a good skier)

to get out of this dilemma it's very difficult with a 5kg boot so with a lightweight one (3 to 3kg5)... we need at least Hoji ;-)
for me the vulcan gets roughly the same flex as a true 130 alpine four buckles boot:
- the carbon/plastic upper cuff is very rigid
- there is no play because the mecanicm is far away from the pivot with a big surface of transfer
- the inside cuff is stop foward by the lower shell ( but no stopper like the mercury) and close to the pivot
- the tongue is very rigid but totally free on the upper
but not very responsive, lively.
I have the feeling a large part of the bending depends on the deformation of lower cuff.
and only on big loads.
a bit like having a lot with suspension damping but little spring. or like having a WC race boot at the beginning of the flex and a 120 four buckles at the medium flex (I mean the top of lower shell in the middle foot starts to collapse)
perhaps the flex is too located or there is friction between the upper and the tongue
on dalbello krypton the upper shell is more engaged on the tongue by the shape of their tongue and by the buckles.
but on the over hand the free play between the tongue and the upper shell helps ski touring performance
I hope Eric is working on it ( in fact I'm sure but I can be wrong )
another thing that perhaps can be better is "the fashion of titened booster"
I know it heps too have a stronger lively flex feeling and we're all using it, AT, freeride and race boots.
but in the same time when we have our buckles and booster very titened there is no play between our tibia bone and the tongue or the linner.
our sensations on foward flex are "unconnected" to the tibia/tongue contact and we lost quick adjustment of the boody.
also this little play heps to go easily on the front and engage the curve ( if your not a powerful technical skier :-) )
my two cents before the snow comingLast edited by buenonda; 10-13-2016 at 03:09 PM. Reason: orthographe
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10-16-2016, 07:03 AM #38Registered User
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spring effect and minimal or no friction between the shell parts's is certainly the key of a nice foward flex
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10-17-2016, 10:29 PM #39
(drops mic)
Awesome Hoji.
Loving my Mercury boots.Every man dies. Not every man lives.
You don’t stop playing because you grow old; you grow old because you stop playing.
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10-18-2016, 05:47 PM #40Registered User
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As a life-long Raichle/Full-Tilt user, I couldn't agree more. With a well fitting (narrow) heel pocket and precise adjustment of the instep buckle, the rest of the boot can be relatively roomy, allowing for both high performance powder skiing and comfortable feet. <y Mercuries are ok, but could be better.
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10-18-2016, 05:59 PM #41Life is not lift served.
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