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  1. #51
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    Yes, three gone way too soon. Can't imagine the pain for each family.

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    while those 3 fine maggots may not be with us on this earthly plane
    they continue and always be with this community
    is my beliefs
    ski on my brothers
    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
    "I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
    "THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
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  3. #53
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    Rest in peace Trevor.
    Let me lock in the system at Warp 2
    Push it on into systematic overdrive
    You know what to do

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    RIP #toosoon

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    Really a shame. I recall watching one of his videos, and seemed like a great kid from his posts.

    I wish something positive could come from this, but I don't have an answer. Sometimes when you do dangerous things, tragedy will happen, even to the best.

  6. #56
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    So sad. Rest in peace, Trevor. His posts and videos have inspired me to get out there more than any ski flick. Absolutely loved his style of moving through the mountains...

  7. #57
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    Sad news.

    RIP AS.
    Smoke'em If You Got'em

  8. #58
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    Well that fucking sucks. Pax Trevor.

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    Dude was a straight up legend in the making. He may have been doing the routiest ski mountaineering descents on the planet the last year or so. His videos and trips and isolation were mind blowing. Literally jaw on the floor for a lot of that stuff and I'd like to think I've seen and been around a fair bit of similar things in the mountains.

    At the same time I was having the same thoughts when I watched and saw photos and blog posts of Andreas Fransson. When the level is so far beyond anyone else and so consistently beyond, repeatedly, it is only a matter of time. I view the mountains as a numbers game these days. No matter how skilled, how prepared, how educated, at a certain point the mountains will catch up to you. Inevitable when playing in those supremely high risk environments. Granted in this scenario early season snow pack in the middle of a storm with secondary exposure seems like he wasn't stacking the deck in his favour. And stacking the odds in your favour as much as possible is the only sensible way to go about the mountains, even though sometimes the cards will fall the wrong way no matter what.

    Finally this brings me to something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Every one of these deaths in the mountains involving experienced people should have a full detailed and public report so the rest of the community can become more educated and hopefully prevent such deaths in the future. All the circumstances before, during, and after that led up to the event. Right now there is too much silence when people die in the mountains. All we hear now is avalanche or fall RIP, without evaluation. I truly believe this will save lives and make people question their own decisions more. The argument against it is to respect the family and friends and potentially people involved if mistakes are made, but if it is common mountain knowledge among the riding community that a report will be made if their is an accident everyone will accept it and know its coming. It's time we put away decency and grow the education of the community together. How to pay for such reports is another matter all together.

    RIP and SIP Trevor. You were an inspiration!

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    ^^^ strong words, but I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post
    ^^^ strong words, but I agree
    me too
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain505 View Post
    Every one of these deaths in the mountains involving experienced people should have a full detailed and public report so the rest of the community can become more educated and hopefully prevent such deaths in the future. All the circumstances before, during, and after that led up to the event. Right now there is too much silence when people die in the mountains. All we hear now is avalanche or fall RIP, without evaluation. I truly believe this will save lives and make people question their own decisions more.
    Yep, although like you say - who'll do the reporting? I would like to see feedback from those involved in cases where they survived, but I guess that its too painful, so they don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atrain505 View Post

    RIP and SIP Trevor. You were an inspiration!
    Yep
    Some big stuff he was hitting and I guess the exposure was what came along with that big stuff.

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    He was in binary outcome terrain Athan. It's the odds and probabilities or "stacking the deck" like you said

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    Does anyone here know how long he'd been in the mountains for? The articles mentioned he'd come west after graduating from some post secondary education and that he was only 28? Man, 28, what a bummer.
    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
    Does anyone here know how long he'd been in the mountains for? The articles mentioned he'd come west after graduating from some post secondary education and that he was only 28? Man, 28, what a bummer.
    I met Trevor I believe his first season in Golden (2011 or 12) and we hit the slack country a couple times those first couple seasons. Truly amazing the way he got after it and really sharing the stoke around here.

    RIP Trevor

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    Quote Originally Posted by shafty85 View Post
    Does anyone here know how long he'd been in the mountains for? The articles mentioned he'd come west after graduating from some post secondary education and that he was only 28? Man, 28, what a bummer.
    Trevor's time in mountains was pretty short. Shafty, he was on our glacier rescue course with us... let that sink in, only two years ago. He just jumped on the gas and didn't let up.
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    Fwiw all incidents in Canada are investigated and reported. Www.avalanche.ca will get you to information. As this was in a national park it will be them(park safety specialist) that do an incident report. You can actually buy the book with all the incidents going back many years.


    Where he was is a crap shot at any given time. That area has caused alot of grief.

    Just plain sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamothe View Post
    Trevor's time in mountains was pretty short. Shafty, he was on our glacier rescue course with us... let that sink in, only two years ago. He just jumped on the gas and didn't let up.
    Wow - that sucks. Man, just a shitty loss for the ski community.
    "...if you're not doing a double flip cork something, skiing spines in Haines, or doing double flip cork somethings off spines in Haines, you're pretty much just gaping."

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    RIP. Even from my desk in dirty Jersey as an older dude whose glory days in the mountains are long gone I feel like I knew this cat and lived through a lot of what he was doing.

    According to the report they evaluated the situation and began a descent. So the harshness of being exposed - making the right decision -and still paying the ultimate price is the double standard of natures laws vs our perceived ones.

    A lot of you guys should read the book "Deep Survival" if you have not. It should be required reading of any backcountry enthusiast.

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    Another maggot down, lost too soon. Peace to family and friends.


    Please be safe out there. We play in high risk environments, so beware of the safety envelop and keep the margin of safety in your favor, not the mountains. We all love to read and watch the exploits of people pushing those limits, but I for one would rather read tamer TRs
    from people who come home after every trip, then the radical ones that eventually end at a funeral.

    They old mountaineering adage applies, "getting to the top is optional, getting down is mandatory". As I get older I see the truth in this more and more.

    Play safe

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    RIP

    I agree with everything said above. That said, haven't we agreed that we would keep the RIP threads clear of analysis and move that stuff to Slide Zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    He was in binary outcome terrain Athan. It's the odds and probabilities or "stacking the deck" like you said
    This is the jist of it. A small size 1 and you are done. I had a similar close call once on the ramp route on Athabasca above some seracs with a small windslab. I now try to avoid those situations (skiing above large exposure), even if it means I'll never get to ski something like Mt. Stanley. But part of the game skiing lines like that. I think part of getting after it early and nailing powder conditions requires a certain eye on the conditions: solar, temperatures, wind, precipitation, etc.. something I just can't do from my desk.

    Interesting to note an ACMG MCR dated from Saturday (the day before the incident?) detailing human triggered avalanches on Mt. Victoria.
    https://www.mountainconditions.com/r...e-louise-group

    And an eerie incident report from a fellow Golden biglines crusher could have been fresh in the mind.
    http://vault.biglines.com/forum/near...le-mt-victoria
    Last edited by skiitsbetter; 09-29-2016 at 09:52 AM.

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    Just checked out his blog. Dude was a savage. Super impressive stuff and usually solo. Sad
    "If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough."

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashidy View Post
    Fwiw all incidents in Canada are investigated and reported. Www.avalanche.ca will get you to information. As this was in a national park it will be them(park safety specialist) that do an incident report. You can actually buy the book with all the incidents going back many years.
    These reports teach the public almost nothing, and I should have mentioned them, as yes they are done, but they do not educate. They simply state what happened without being detailed enough. Only the incident itself/slide itself (they often don't even connect the actual event to the snow pack report). No before analysis (arguably the most important...decision making/group dynamics/avy report/terrain evaluation/etc), no after the event analysis (i.e. attempted rescue/avy skills/first aid skills/etc). Not sure who is going to pay for them/do them, but they should be done. Plain and simple. Avalanche Canada would be the obvious place to start. Finally broadcast them on any and all mountain news places. Educate. Save lives in the future. People will still die (that's never going to stop in the mountains), but I bet you save some.

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    Rest in peace.
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