Why does everyone hate the park and newscHOolers???

**ScrewYou** · 09-27-2016, 10:18 AM

I live up on the back side of Heavenly, and must say that parts of Mott & Killbrew are significantly steeper than Tower 3 or Alta Chutes in Jackson. But other than that, Heavenly is really only good for quick laps before school.

However, when we have powder, it actually lasts a few days in bounds, because all the gapers stay out of the trees and the little steeps we have. Whereas at Jackson the powder is gone by noon inbounds.. But, the slope of most terrain at Heavenly is weak, and all my skis are big, so slow speed, low pitch deep powder really requires some effort on big skis.. Basically you just straight line Old Growth style trees, and if you turn, you sink.

Heavenly is not a big mountain resort.. But living at heavenly ain't so bad, only 45 mins to kirkwood, 1 hour to squaw, 2 hours to mammoth, and 6.5 hours to SLC

**digitaldeath** · 09-27-2016, 10:20 AM

much steeper than tower 3

hemlock is steep as fuck, as is i think its called rock chute

**TahoeJ** · 09-27-2016, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

Heavenly is not a big mountain resort.

It may not be "big mountain" skiing outside of a few zones but it's certainly big. Pretty sure it's almost 5k acres, twice the size of most resorts.

**ScrewYou** · 09-27-2016, 10:41 AM

I think that's total land. A lot of it isn't skiable unless you're a pro like us mags. Absolutely none of the inbounds runs are linked together in a big mtn fashion, it's all traversing and hard to find sustained pitch over 1500ft vertical.

In an ice age, when you could ski down to Gardnerville most of the year, it would be epic.

It's still fun. I have no complaints putting the majority of my days here, and it ain't so bad when you don't have to drive..

**nickwm21** · 09-27-2016, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by WTF is dat

It's funny because I ski around with my beats pill at full volume a lot and people in the lift lines at vail get really upset

When someone in the lift line is blasting shitty music.... there really is only one way to defeat it, create your own music.

**whyturn** · 09-27-2016, 12:30 PM

Because I'm old school.

**The SnowShow** · 09-27-2016, 05:09 PM

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Keepin it real in Park Citi biznotch

**TahoeJ** · 09-27-2016, 05:34 PM

This reminds me, the Tom Wallisch tall tee stretch thread is still one of the best to ever appear on TGR...

**The SnowShow** · 09-27-2016, 06:21 PM

For a cool $100, this could be yours from NS - XXXXL Jibberish:

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**digitaldeath** · 09-27-2016, 10:17 PM

Where can I get those steezy balaclavas ?

I bet that's like a cut up black t-shirt

**Jong Lafitte** · 09-27-2016, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by The SnowShow

Keepin it real in Park Citi biznotch

Is that dude on the right rocking a chindo under that get-up? NTTAWWT

**roadgap** · 09-28-2016, 12:52 PM

So my only question is i'm cool with the whole hiphop thing but if that's what park kids are trying to go for, why are they stuck in the 90's? Ol Dirty's been dead for almost 13 years, Redman's creeping up on 50 and even YG wears T-shirts in size M these days.

I'm pretty sure most of these kids weren't even alive when rappers were wearing huge T's and jeans with the crotch around the knees.

**The SnowShow** · 09-28-2016, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by roadgap

So my only question is i'm cool with the whole hiphop thing but if that's what park kids are trying to go for, why are they stuck in the 90's? Ol Dirty's been dead for almost 13 years, Redman's creeping up on 50 and even YG wears T-shirts in size M these days.

I'm pretty sure most of these kids weren't even alive when rappers were wearing huge T's and jeans with the crotch around the knees.

Haha agree. My high school attire in the late 80s/early 90s included baggy cross colors jeans and hats, and carhartt.

**DropCliffsNotBombs** · 09-28-2016, 01:16 PM

"Skiing" park isn't really skiing. It's doing ballerina tricks... except with skis on.

**mall walker** · 09-28-2016, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by DropCliffsNotBombs

"Skiing" park isn't really skiing. It's doing ballerina tricks... except with skis on.

It isn't my thing but some of those kids do fuckin rip

**summit** · 09-28-2016, 05:29 PM

because this place is full of old cranky people who want those damned skittle kids to get off their lawns

**Long duc dong** · 09-28-2016, 05:57 PM

They don't like kids who grew up far away from ghettos acting like that is where they are from.

They don't agree that Tom Wallisch is the best skier in the world, or that park skiing and urban are the only things that matter. Having said that most people on this site could care less if some 14 year old kid feels that way.

I don't think most people on this site care all that much about this issue.

I don't think it has to do with hate, but rather a lack of understanding of the priorities of these kids. I grew up in the east and skied bumps and glades. I dreamed about Squaw Valley, Chamonix and Alaska and skiing steeps. We did not have big terrain, just bumps really, but we wanted to ski the steeps. It seems like lots of these park kids don't care about big, steep terrain. In surfing the kids from Florida dream about Hawaii, and no matter how good you are in small waves there is a limit to how much your skills will be respected if you can't rip at Pipeline or Honolua Bay when it is maxing. No matter how hard you rip the park, if you don't ski the steeps your skills won't really be respected at a place like Squaw or Jackson. Surfers aspire to Hawaii, I think it is strange that many of today's park kids don't aspire to ski steep terrain. I could really care less if they want to or not, it is just strange to me.

Having said all of that, most older locals are more worried about skiing great terrain and making enough money to stay reasonably comfortable than they are about park kids. I think most Jackson locals could care less if a kid wants to stay in the park. It means fewer people chasing pow which is good for them.

**raisingarizona13** · 09-28-2016, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by mbillie1

It isn't my thing but some of those kids do fuckin rip

The average ones amaze me. It's awesome, who even saw this coming, back 20 or so years ago? It's cool as fuck. I could care less what they wear.

**ScrewYou** · 09-28-2016, 09:56 PM

What is a newschooler? Is it an age thing? A park-only type thing?

I think anyone who is skiing any sort of rockered, tapered, pow ski, is taking part in the newschoolershipism. Even you oldie (but goodie) mags.

On3p, (arguably) the best company out there, is a newschool company. They are making some of the best skis in the game right now. Im glad to be on newschool skis FWIW

Im young, ski differently than my parents generation, jump and jib off everything, even on so called directional skis. I dont ski park often though, so am I a newschooler?

**::: :::** · 09-28-2016, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by aevergreene

What is a newschooler? Is it an age thing? A park-only type thing?

I think anyone who is skiing any sort of rockered, tapered, pow ski, is taking part in the newschoolershipism. Even you oldie (but goodie) mags.

On3p, (arguably) the best company out there, is a newschool company. They are making some of the best skis in the game right now. Im glad to be on newschool skis FWIW

Im young, ski differently than my parents generation, jump and jib off everything, even on so called directional skis. I dont ski park often though, so am I a newschooler?

newschoolers.com

**ScrewYou** · 09-28-2016, 10:28 PM

What about it? A lot of people on here are also on there. Is everyone on there a newschooler? Is everyone on here a Teton Gravity researcher? Am i a newschool gravity researcher?