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  1. #4326
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    Guy in brown pants, good looking turns.

    I'm sure the go pro guy had nice turns too, just can't tell.



    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    Look back at some fat spring skiing on the great one in early April


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    8.13.17
    somewhere off FSR 86 and an unmarked logging road, on a ridge above the PCT between White Rock Lake and the Perazzo Canyon Cliffs.
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    Apres Ski Wind-Down:
    Modern Times City of the Sun IPA and Trumer Pils
    Soundtrack:
    The Aggrolites - Hit L.A.
    Horace Andy - Skylarking
    Acetone - Acetone
    ambersunshower - Walter T. Smith
    Joseph Arthur - Big City Secrets


    Additional Beta:
    There's still some rideable snow on Mt. Lola; one swatch and a serious strip on the North facing backside, plus the front summit ridge saddle is still laden nicely.
    There's also some rideable ridges above WRL and Basin Peak still goes. Also a smidge of a strip on the North facing backside of Castle Peak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robojerry View Post
    Per the OSHA website, the avalanche that killed Eski was triggered by a hand charge, not while ski cutting: https://www.osha.gov/pls/imis/establ...l?id=311862544

    Seems the failing Sacbee forgot to research or factcheck before publishing. Fake news. Sad
    FIFY. (Thanks for finding that--that's what I had heard from my son, who was on patrol at the time.)
    Quote Originally Posted by gnarbro365 View Post
    Sorry to nitpick...but where in Tahoe is not highly desirable due to location? Build a bunch of high rise units...but not on mah squaw?


    Thanks for clearing it up boys. We're fucked.
    I should have said "relatively" undesirable--as in out in the scrub pine, not at a ski resort or with a lake view. The big new luxury developments like Lahontan, Martis Camp, and Old Greenwood are on otherwise unappealing pieces of land. Not that lower income people (under 250K/year) shouldn't be able to live in nice places, just that houses and apts in less scenic areas or farther from the amenities are less likely to be bought as short term rentals. Those high rises planned for Squaw aren't going to be affordable long term rentals. Also, it's a lot cheaper to build on the flats. In my neighborhood, after you get done blasting you wind up with a foundation that costs more than most people can afford for a house. We do have a policy of permitting MIL units on otherwise single family zoned lots--house on one side has 3 units (1 is nonconforming) all rented long term to locals, and I have no problem with it. There are 3 condo complexes--just 2 story-- at Donner Lake, not affordable.

    It is possible to put deed restrictions on any new development--requiring income, long term leases etc--but apparently it's hard to sell units with restrictions, so the units have to be priced low, which means built relatively cheap. Maybe waive building fees entirely for deed restricted units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Banning short term rentals isn't the answer, and I believe there may be legal obstacles to banning them for existing units. The answer is zoning, planning review, and building fees that encourage affordable long term housing. Stop zoning for single homes on large lots and start zoning for high density high rise units (not in Squaw Valley but in areas that are not highly desirable due to location). Adjust building fees so that a 500 sf apt doesn't incur the same fees as a 50,000 McMansion. Raise the transient occupancy tax to discourage short term rentals and use the revenue to subsidize more low income housing. Right now in Truckee even if you wanted to build affordable housing you couldn't because as anyone around here who has tried to find a contractor knows they're all busy building luxury house in Martis Camp and places like that, and if you can find a contractor he can't find subs and workers--immigration policy isn't helping that either. What is lacking is the political will. Wealthy homeowners don't really want to see the kind of housing that would be attractive to local workers and not to vacationing tourists. Everybody is talking about the problem and studying the problem. No one is doing anything about it. No one here in govt has the balls or the energy to take any meaningful action on anything. (Even making bear boxes mandatory is too controversial to pass.) Maybe when half the stores and restaurants are shuttered for lack of employees, when your furnace dies and you can't find a heating contractor to fix it the politicians will act.
    This. AirBnB pitches itself as a way for people to keep their homes, maintain an additional stream of income, etc. Or at least, those are some of the arguments for people who want to rent their places through ABNB.

    One way to address this would be to allow people to ABNB for a set number of days per year (e.g., 15 or 30). If they rent more than that, they have to get permitted, and act like the commercial establishment that they are - i.e., pay hotel taxes, comply with laws/regs applicable to hotels, etc. They need people to enforce the permit requirements, so it should come with a healthy fine for failure to comply. The law needs to catch up to the reality and the needs of the community.

    Glenshire HOA recently proposed something along these lines; they have dedicated a committee to studying the issue...so, another year or two before meaningful action (if any).

    As said earlier, Truckee is in desperate need of more workforce housing (more supply). High density would make sense in all the railyard areas (thinking E of downtown), but I don't know enough of the zoning/ownership details. But makes sense based on proximity to transit, town, etc.

    Bay Area cash has always had a huge imprint on Truckee/Tahoe, but AirBnb (and VRBO to a lesser extent) has made it SO easy to run a de facto hotel operation in what should be a residence. Take out that factor -- or mitigate its impacts by creating and enforcing a permitting program - and the impact is vastly reduced. There's a reason ABNB fits any of these proposals tooth and nail. And when mighty SF can't even beat them back (Prop F in 2015), how can lil ol' Truckee?

    Great article in Outside: "Did Airbnb kill the mountain town?" https://www.outsideonline.com/219872...-mountain-town
    LA Times on Santa Monica: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...514-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by meter-man View Post
    One way to address this would be to allow people to ABNB for a set number of days per year (e.g., 15 or 30). If they rent more than that, they have to get permitted, and act like the commercial establishment that they are - i.e., pay hotel taxes, comply with laws/regs applicable to hotels, etc. They need people to enforce the permit requirements, so it should come with a healthy fine for failure to comply. The law needs to catch up to the reality and the needs of the community.
    Well, as it stands now if you do any short term renting - it doesn't matter how many days - you need to have a permit and pay TOT. Truckee is pretty well organized with all of this and really makes it an easy process (even sending you a reminder and TOT form every quarter), to their credit. Not sure about enforcement but it's obviously in their best interest to crack down on the non-permitted rentals, which should be fairly easy to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Well, as it stands now if you do any short term renting - it doesn't matter how many days - you need to have a permit and pay TOT. Truckee is pretty well organized with all of this and really makes it an easy process (even sending you a reminder and TOT form every quarter), to their credit. Not sure about enforcement but it's obviously in their best interest to crack down on the non-permitted rentals, which should be fairly easy to do.
    Thx - I should do some research before I open my damn mouth (but I just love to hate ABNB so much).... "the Town’s Municipal Code Chapter 3.24 states that “every operator of a hotel in the Town of Truckee for stays of less than thirty-one (31) continuous nights shall collect the tax on the amount of rent from the occupant.” Each Transient (lodger) is subject to and shall pay a tax in the amount of ten (10%) percent of the rent charged by the operator (hotel, owner of property). It is the operator’s duty to pay the tax to the Town of Truckee."

    Truckee even has hired consultants to track down the scofflaws. "[T]he town has somewhere around 1,500 short-term rentals..."

    http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/new...lodging-taxes/

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    Spent Saturday night at Upper Velma Lake in Desolation this weekend with three friends. Two of us brought skis with us, hoping Dick's would be holding enough snow for a decent line. It was on the lower end of expectations but, you know, it's August and backpacking and skiing is more fun than just backpacking.

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    The best combination of access ease and quality was this line just left of center. There's a barely visible keyhole that accessed the lower snowfield dropping off to the left of the frame.

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    Grating the parmesan:

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    Headed back down to camp in time for a sunset swim. Granite is pretty.

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    Things are pretty burned out as you can see from the photos, but we did see a really tempting line in the distance on the way in and out. The two snowfields in the center of the picture below connect for a really nice, steep looking run. The iphone picture sucks, but it's a nice long run, longer than it appears in the pic. I'm not sure if the best way to access it is to traverse from the top of the Tallac summer trail, or to hike up the SE ridge from the backside from the PCT trail, just past Gilmore Lake. I'm tempted to go back this weekend and check it out...

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    Much of the land in the railyard is "don't call it contaminated" and not fit for housing. Artist lofts are slated, but according to the last moonshine I read, they did not get the grant for the artist lofts (affordable housing). If they don't get it I bet they still build, but it won't be affordable.

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    Saw this in a patrol shack when I was riding around alpine the other day. LoL,d

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    I'm thinking someone wasn't too happy about the early closing with all of that snow on the ground. Heh.

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    In case you were wondering why I wasn't skiing around Tahoe in July...


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    MT. LOLA 8.15.17

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    There's still quite a bit of decent lines up on Lola. This is one of the two north facing backside patches. this one was wide and moderately steep. it broke at the treeline at the bottom and continued, but the lower portion cliffed-out.

    The other backside run is long (broken at the top 1/3), but still skiable with a meager portage (basically stepping your skis over a few rocks and thin spots).

    The ridge, just under the summit proper, is still solid, too.

    Sadly, we cut our tour short due to impending weather and threats of lightning/thunder.
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    "THE NIPPLE" AREA 8.16.17

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    The weather gods just aren't shining in my favor this week. Cut yesterday's tour short due to threatening weather.
    Today, when I got out to "The Nipple" around 4:30, I was welcomed by yet another sky of impending bad weather (it looked and smelled like it had recently rained, but a thick mass of ominous, grey clouds hung over "The Nipple" and the surrounding ridge). Due to what looked like unpredictable weather to me, I banged out 2 quick laps and packed it in.
    The snow was moderately cupped and a bit "icey", perhaps from the recent rain.
    Wish I'd been able to have taken a few more laps.
    That said, if you live in South Lake, Meyers, Carson City, or Minden/Gardnerville, this is a quick hit with some decent, albeit kinda short, lines still for the skiing/riding.
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    I know it's never going to happen but I would love it if KSL would offer an Alpine only ski pass

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    Yah...
    *the carpets will run*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Oh it was so good...and thanks for inspiration to have even more fun this year!


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    4th Of JULY CHUTES BOWLS - 8.19.19

    Gonna go on record and make the call: The 4th of July Chutes Bowls are officially done.

    Hit them up this morning and only the first bowl still has skiable snow.

    Longest run = 7 turns
    Shortest run = 3 turns

    snow was decent, though; soft, smearable, edgeable, and mild on the suncup tip.

    Good for a quick Saturday morning jaunt (I have a wedding to attend this afternoon, so needed something I could bang out fast), but, yeah, they're pretty much cooked.

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    More pix and a longer TR over on the Patchskiing thread:
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...52#post5080052
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    Quote Originally Posted by skier666 View Post
    In case you were wondering why I wasn't skiing around Tahoe in July...

    Thats sick. Skiing through the rock mines at the bottom looked techy! Like gates that hit back.

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    Is the Squaw/Alpine pass any more expensive this year than last year? I don't want a pass to a mountain I can't get to/park at.


    Re : Housing. There is a serious housing crunch for workers in Tahoe. People have always had to scratch out an existence to live in paradise, but it sounds like it's gotten a lot worse over the past few years due to the loss of long term rentals. But if you think about it, second home owners would much rather rent for a week to tourists who have credit cards on file to cover damages rather than renting to 7 recent high school grads who are gonna trash their place and most likely leave in the spring. Prediction: Communities/neighborhoods that limit the usage of short term rentals are gonna become the defacto slums over time.

    In 2013 it wasn't that difficult to find decent long term housing in South Lake. We paid like $1300 for a nice 2/1 with a garage, fenced yard and great landlords. Good luck finding anything like that now. The only realistic solution I can see is employee housing at the resorts, similar to what already exists in Kirkwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe Bromide View Post
    Is the Squaw/Alpine pass any more expensive this year than last year? I don't want a pass to a mountain I can't get to/park at.
    A little bit, but not enough to make any difference. Nothing like having to leave Truckee before 7am just to make sure you find a spot. No thanks.

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    Eclipse Ski day on the Sisters with Somethingclever, Vets and Dooky

    First we had to time travel through the solar tunnel of doom

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    8 google lenes (Not OSHA Approved)
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    Dooky brought his NASA approved viewing device
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    Looks like there's going to be a total eclipse right over Lake Tahoe on August 12, 2045. Make sure to mark your calendars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mokomahonah View Post
    Much of the land in the railyard is "don't call it contaminated" and not fit for housing. Artist lofts are slated, but according to the last moonshine I read, they did not get the grant for the artist lofts (affordable housing). If they don't get it I bet they still build, but it won't be affordable.
    As of last week, The developer has secured the required funding through another source and will be breaking ground/ moving along as planned pretty soon. Don't know why the Sierra Sun can't report on that, but it was announced at a community arts alliance meeting. Can't comment on how they will remediate the site...

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    More. Some nice lines in this one and good drone photography...


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