RAMP Skis - Out of Business?

[MMMSKI]

Anyone know what is going on at RAMP? I know they had some "fire" sales in the spring/summer but I have not heard anything about the company since. Today, I noticed the site is down and when I did a search it appeared they are out of business. I skied on a few skis and liked them enough. Just curious, especially being the first of the resurgence USA made skis to go under (?)

[grskier]

My buddy Andrew skied for them and has referred to them as the company formally known as Ramp

[drop22]

Ghost

[skifishbum]

the guys vacuum baggin a marginal product with a gimmicky mlm rep program
swirled down the shitter
color me shocked

[Sessiøn]

the guys vacuum baggin a marginal product with a gimmicky mlm rep program
swirled down the shitter
color me shocked

Literally my thoughts as well. People forget they started as a pyramid scheme selling chinese made ski's. Then tried to turn in to a "Made in America" brand using sub-optimal production methods, and trying to convince everyone that is was superior. Dumbshits.

[cat in january]

Not feeling like starting a new thread, is skilogik dead too? Pretty skis and some seemed to really like them, but they never drew me.

[geo039]

Not feeling like starting a new thread, is skilogik dead too? Pretty skis and some seemed to really like them, but they never drew me.

Interesting. Cause?

[adrenalated]

Not feeling like starting a new thread, is skilogik dead too? Pretty skis and some seemed to really like them, but they never drew me.

From their FB page it sure looks that way.

I was always pretty turned off by the lengths they went through to hide the fact that their skis were made in China. If you want to make your shit there, fine, but be up front about it.

[iggyskier]

I was always pretty turned off by the lengths they went through to hide the fact that their skis were made in China. If you want to make your shit there, fine, but be up front about it.

You mean like Liberty putting "Born in Colorado" on all their Made in China skis?

[abraham]

You mean like Liberty putting "Born in Colorado" on all their Made in China skis?

I thought they were pretty upfront about being made in China. Especially when compared with Liberty's obfuscation.

Is your bamboo from China? You should put 'born in China. Made in the USA' on your skis

[Danno]

Yeah, I thought ski logik was pretty honest about where they were made.

Never skied them, but sorry to see them go (if they're gone), their skis were purty.

[LightRanger]

^^^ I vaguely recall discussion of their obfuscation from back in the TTips days. Ancient history though.

[adrenalated]

^^^ I vaguely recall discussion of their obfuscation from back in the TTips days. Ancient history though.

Yeah when they first started they were not at all forthcoming about it. In fact, their sales rep gave me a solid 5min runaround on the topic when I was asking him point blank where the manufacturing was based before he finally stopped saying shit like "well the headquarters is in Breckenridge" and admitted the factory was in China.

Which is funny because as they figured out later, the whole thing didn't need to be a disadvantage, as they could easily play up the fact that they designed and built the factory themselves, brought in high-end craftsmen, etc.

[eskido]

Agreed, I've always felt logics reasoning made sense and seemed open (to me at least) and put out the idea that everything was still very craftsman hand made and proud of they're shit. I honestly wanted a pair but with Praxis and ON3P and a couple others, I.e. Folsom and Fatypus, they were too low on my list. Typically companies like Ramp and Liberty REALLY turn me off. Cannondale used to do the same shit

[El Chupacabra]

Specialized bicycles used to advertise their overseas-built frames as "designed in California." Maybe they still do, IDK.

[LightRanger]

I'll check my road bike when I get home.

[meter-man]

Specialized bicycles used to advertise their overseas-built frames as "designed in California." Maybe they still do, IDK.

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[skiing-in-jackson]

This thread has the potential to really grow some feet (on these subjects):

1) the whole Designed in Calif, Made in China crap. Pure comedy.
2) I was really hoping every small upstart ski company could make it. We all can't ski on stuff from two companies- and their associated subsidiaries.
3) Skilogik was plagued by poor quality, yet they managed to get some really good skiers on their stuff. Are they dead?

[Vt-Freeheel]

No more beaver???





Bye Bye chumps. They had a demo day at my local area and a guy tried to hustle me into trying them[not the beavers], I pointed at my Praxis MVPs and said "no thanks"

[Harry]

No more beaver???





Bye Bye chumps. They had a demo day at my local area and a guy tried to hustle me into trying them[not the beavers], I pointed at my Praxis MVPs and said "no thanks"

They had a demo day at Moonlight Basin a few years back. I skied a few runs on several pairs. I thought it was weird the way tried to sell them. Most demos are very laid back, this was definitely a hard sell.

[raisingarizona13]

I don't know why anyone would hate on having their skis made in China, those tiny hands of 6 year old Chinese children do amazing things on an assembly line.

[snapt]

Sooo many Ramps at the JH ski swap last year that didn't sell.

[Gunder]

I gotta say I like Lib's made near canada labels.

[Sirshredalot]

It sounds like they never latched on to a feasible business model.

I think a bigger problem for them was that their designs seemed dated. I don't know who the market is for flat tail short-medium radius skis with a traditional shovel and just a little bit of tip rocker and a waist topping out at around 100mm. Old ski instructors, maybe?