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  1. #1776
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rideski View Post
    Link to this article: https://www.9news.com/article/news/c...8-f467dfb49d0a

    "Edwards, 66, was charged with driving with an expired license and driving with expired license plates, the attorney's office said."

    No mention of her being arrested and having to post bail, either. In CO, "careless driving causing death" is a Class 1 Misdemeanor punishable by $300 to $1,000 in fines and 10 days to 1 year in the County Jail. Read that again, max of $1,000 and/or one year in county jail for fucking killing someone. And people wonder why cyclists get riled up about this shit.

    This came up in the related articles, 37-year old mother of two young boys (one 4 years old, the other nine months) riding in a designated bike lane:
    https://www.9news.com/article/news/l...e-f951dd404d3a
    https://www.9news.com/article/traffi...8-166a2c4b9206

    "Without aggravating factors like drugs, alcohol, a hit and run or texting while driving, careless driving is the most appropriate charge, according to Denver attorneys. Penalties include points on a driverís license, up to a $1,000 fine and/or 10 days to one year in jail.

    Governor Jared Polis signed a bill in May increasing penalties for careless driving resulting in the serious bodily injury of a Ďvulnerable road user,í including cyclists, construction workers or scooter riders. The bill initially considered increasing penalties for careless driving resulting in death but ultimately took that provision out."



    WHAT THE MOTHERFUCKING FUCK? I'm surprised her husband hasn't murdered that fucking guy. I sure as fuck would have by now. Just run his ass over while sober and not texting and stay at the scene.

    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Our roads are not engineered for bikes or pedestrians.
    In America, only faggots and douchey hipster millennials walk or ride bikes, amiright?

    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Fixed!
    Right? FFS, go park a bike in the middle of a traffic lane and suggest people "just drive around it" and see what the response is. God forbid the local cops actually ticket the lazy fucks.

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    Fu*king Cyclists

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post



    In America, only faggots and douchey hipster millennials walk or ride bikes, amiright?


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    i honestly think 50% of the adirondack rider etc hate must be because of some fox culture war bs like that.



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    This is yet another one. Not sure how many we’re up to this summer. I think it’s over 20

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    At least that woman appears to have been arrested (https://www.9news.com/article/news/c...8-ec6328de5594), though I'll be shocked if she faces felony charges if DUI or texting wasn't involved.

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    hey I got a buddy who tells me the best lycra clad road riding is not anywhere in yurp

    Its in Columbia
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    lycra clad road riding
    For the record, I road ride for transportation in street clothes. Lycra and drops as a purely recreational activity is a hard pass, NTTAWWT.

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    and I am sure many people are thankful

    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    In our neck of Paradise, a small but vocal group of citizens bitch about The Spandex Mafia, a group of retired men who ride three abreast as they leave town on their weekly road ride. Note that our commercial district is 5x5 blocks with 20mph speeds.
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    All the cool road riders pedal in jeans.

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    We've lost 4 riders in just a few days here in NY to hit and run drivers. A kid and a 64 year old man on Long Island and two up by Rochester, both men in their 50's. This hit and run thing is disgusting and the fact that the penalties are nearly nonexistent is enough to make you sick if you think about it too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    We've lost 4 riders in just a few days here in NY to hit and run drivers. A kid and a 64 year old man on Long Island and two up by Rochester, both men in their 50's. This hit and run thing is disgusting and the fact that the penalties are nearly nonexistent is enough to make you sick if you think about it too much.
    Completely agree.... Add to that pedestrians like this:
    https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...57q-story.html
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    I don't have any stats to point to but the general feeling in the Toronto area is hit and runs are way up lately. Sickening.

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    While I donít agree with the light punishment for reckless driving resulting in a fatality, I will say that fatalities involving a second car are similarly prosecuted from my antidotal experience. Big civil penalties but not much criminal.

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    I went out for drinks after work this week and was off my usual route when I started biking home. In a neighborhood with very wide streets and stop signs every block or two, the bike lane disappeared so I was riding in the usual "just outside the door zone" position in the lane and the car behind me started honking, polite little beeps like you use to tell someone their coffee mug is on top of their car. I looked around and hadn't dropped anything, so decided they were honking at someone else.

    They were still honking a half-block later, and we were at a tee intersection where everyone had to stop anyway, so I pulled over and asked them "hey, what's up?" The driver said in a tone of mild exasperation, like the tone you use when your cat brings home a dead mouse, "You're in the way..." I explained to him that given the disappearing bike lane, I was riding exactly where I was supposed to be, and that he should feel free to go around - these were easily 15 foot travel lanes, with no oncoming traffic. He still seemed to feel like I should be riding my bike somewhere else, so I thanked him for not hitting me and we called it a night. No complaints, it beats the heck out of those interactions where they rev the engine or try to sideswipe you, but it really makes me feel like we need to do better on driver's ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaleia View Post
    I don't have any stats to point to but the general feeling in the Toronto area is hit and runs are way up lately. Sickening.
    The strange irony here, at least in most US jurisdictions, is that hit-and-run is an aggravating factor that will get you felony charges when/if you're found (which in this day and age you probably will be). If you're sober, not texting, etc., and you stay at the scene most likely you'll face very few legal consequences

    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    While I donít agree with the light punishment for reckless driving resulting in a fatality, I will say that fatalities involving a second car are similarly prosecuted from my antidotal experience. Big civil penalties but not much criminal.
    I'm not surprised. The big difference is that what would be a basic two-car fender bender with no or minor injuries becomes critical injuries and fatalities with bikes and pedestrians. But, yes, in general the justice system often provides a shocking degree of leniency for killing people with your car. Sadly, it's unlikely to change any time soon.

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    Not bike related, but this pos only got 45yrs for purposely running over two people, killing one and their dog. They already had a restraining order against her. If she had shot him she would most likely have received life in NH because it was premeditated.

    https://www.fosters.com/news/2019082...over-neighbors

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    a rare bump for fucking cyclists in the winter:

    https://www.kplctv.com/2020/01/17/wo...gent-homicide/
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    Wrong thread. Appears to be zero cyclist jackassery involved there.

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    Right? WTF, killed two cyclists!?!

    We have a pattern here. Psycho.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    We have a pattern here. Psycho.
    That hair tells you all you need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Wrong thread. Appears to be zero cyclist jackassery involved there.
    Wrong. Fucking cyclists got in her way. Not allowed. People are in a hurry, got important places to be.

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