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  1. #6876
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    Maybe things will change when Xitter merges with Truth Sewer. The worlds biggest cesspool!

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    Significant shareholder value to be unlocked: xeet fire the lazy humans, download Truth's source code from github and ctrl-F "truth" -> "xitter" to federate with Mastodon.

    One night to change the world with the right mix of meth, ketamine and flakka.

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    Rats!! Just got a 12 hour time out from Elon for suggesting Boebert do something useful and show us her tits. No fun Elon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Rats!! Just got a 12 hour time out from Elon for suggesting Boebert do something useful and show us her tits. No fun Elon.
    You must be the only one she hasn't showed them to.

    Edit: I'm disappointed that there's not even an AI pic online.

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    Free speech!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Rats!! Just got a 12 hour time out from Elon for suggesting Boebert do something useful and show us her tits. No fun Elon.
    Seriously?

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    Yep. Said it was violent
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    That’s insane. I have a “right wing” Twitter account to see how a fully stacked lunatic feed can actually be and I say some absolutely outrageous shit there. Not a fucking peep from their 3 employees watching this stuff.
    My woke libs feed is even inundated with right wing nonsense. Elmo has done quite a number to that place.

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    Your account is locked
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    ( 4 nanoseconds) we determined your account broke the X Rules. Your account is temporarily in read-only mode, which means you can’t post, Repost, or Like content. Most accounts regain full access in a week, but it could take longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cisco Kid View Post
    Rats!! Just got a 12 hour time out from Elon for suggesting Boebert do something useful and show us her tits. No fun Elon.
    Well done sir!

    It shows the hypocrisy of x

    You can say the most scurrilous shit but objectify a right wing nut - the censor comes in. Obviously your point wasn’t wanting to see her tits - not that I would mine. It’s that she accomplished nothing as a legislator

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongShortLong View Post
    It's slightly worse. Society supplies ass kissers to surround these people. It's a curse of wealth and fame. Very difficult to remain a normal person when everyone around you changes.
    There's a bit of a feedback loop. Like surgeons and god complex.
    I mean, the thing with the rocket booster was pretty cool.
    But let's not pretend that Elmo didn't just yell at people until they made it happen.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    I just had dinner with an old friend who works in the utility-scale battery division of Tesla. He's a PhD, not a minion. We pushed hard on the Elno craziness, and he said that everyone there just tries to ignore the maniac at the top and hopes that he doesn't come around and spend any focus on them. They are expanding fast and making a lot of money for the company....

    It's not a friendship-extinction level event for me (unlike my former friend who went to work for Monsanto in the team that sues farmers when the GMO pollen blows into their fields), but I sure give people shit when they work for a company headed by a lunatic.
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    Elon Musk: Smartest Guy in The World or Complete Clown?

    Accidentally posted. My replacement phone hates the App. Crashes with every move…

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    I've been seeing musks "Occupy Mars" t-shirts out in the wild. Cringe-worthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    I just had dinner with an old friend who works in the utility-scale battery division of Tesla. He's a PhD, not a minion. We pushed hard on the Elno craziness, and he said that everyone there just tries to ignore the maniac at the top and hopes that he doesn't come around and spend any focus on them. They are expanding fast and making a lot of money for the company....

    It's not a friendship-extinction level event for me (unlike my former friend who went to work for Monsanto in the team that sues farmers when the GMO pollen blows into their fields), but I sure give people shit when they work for a company headed by a lunatic.
    Musk's best trait, is his ability to consistently put longterm vision ahead of short term profit. All of his competitors in every field he is involved with, care exponentially more about the quarterly and yearly profit and financial reports, and appeasing shareholders and because of that, they arent able to take the massive risks that Musk is more than happy to take. No other companies the size of Tesla are nearly as financially volatile. No one else actively provides the urgency for progression and development that Musk does (by carrot or whip), no one is willing to take the the risk of spectacular failure like musk, and no one else throws gobs of money at problems like musk does even when common sense says its too risky. Even when things fail, they learn from it and the second time around is much improved, and he is OK with that whereas Ford or Amazon, or Boeing would never be OK with those kind of ups and downs. Because of all this, Musk's companies are the technological leaders in numerous incredibly important emerging tech fields (batteries, EVs, Space, driverless vehicles, etc). The old silicon valley adage of "move fast break stuff" was intended to apply to small startups looking to disrupt an industry, but musk is the only one to continue applying that adage once the company has grown to be an industry leader.

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    Elon Musk: Smartest Guy in The World or Complete Clown?

    Amazon isn’t afraid to take massive risks? What? Remember the fire smart phone? A lot of tech companies count on ~1/100 projects they take on to 1000x their investment in it. Many of the stocks are valued on future speculation and Tesla is no different.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire...as%20announced

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    We pushed hard on the Elno craziness, and he said that everyone there just tries to ignore the maniac at the top and hopes that he doesn't come around and spend any focus on them.
    To be fair, isn't that the case at any place of employment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    It's not a friendship-extinction level event for me (unlike my former friend who went to work for Monsanto in the team that sues farmers when the GMO pollen blows into their fields), but I sure give people shit when they work for a company headed by a lunatic.

    That's the thing, the company as a whole and specifically his division are doing good work. It's not his fault the lunatic leader went off the deep end. In the grand scheme providing utility scale battery is great in helping reduce carbon emissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Amazon isn’t afraid to take massive risks? What? Remember the fire smart phone? A lot of tech companies count on ~1/100 projects they take on to 1000x their investment in it. Many of the stocks are valued on future speculation and Tesla is no different.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire...as%20announced
    10 years ago they tried to produce their own branded version of ubiquitous existing technology already widely adopted by the public. What a ballsy move.

    Tesla basically normalized EV cars in america and has the best mass produced EV tech still. Starlink has monopolized sattellite internet tech. SpaceX is by far the most advanced space program in the world. Tesla is producing the best battery tech at scale, and its R&D is field leading. Tesla will also almost certainly be the leader in driverless vehicle tech when that becomes widely approved (also probably the leader is lawsuits from it).


    I agree that tech companies work on 100+project hoping that 1 of them hits big... but those are typically small consumer/profit focused projects where competitors are usually spending an equal amount to develop something similar. Musk seems intent on going all in with resources on big picture, long term industry-creating projects that no one else is doing, or is doing at remotely the same scale. He starts 10 massive projects and needs 3 of them to hit. Necessity is the mother of invention, and part of his strategy i think is getting way out over his skis (in a somewhat calculated manner) into a position where he has to figure it out or fail spectacularly .


    Honestly, the richest man in the world could do a lot worse than spending 75% of his time and money on big-picture, long-term progressive science projects that no one else seems interested in pursuing at nearly the same scale (the other 25% on his own personal internet trolling website). Imagine if Bill Gates started funding and pushing his modular reactor projects the same way musk pushes tesla or spaceX, how much further along those things would be.

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    Elon Musk: Smartest Guy in The World or Complete Clown?

    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    10 years ago they tried to produce their own branded version of ubiquitous existing technology already widely adopted by the public. What a ballsy move.
    Yeah it was ballsy to try and enter such a competitive market. Risky AF and it worked with Prime Video and didn’t with the smart phone.

    But they did go from an online bookstore to changing the landscape of how people shop.

    Not stanning for any of them, just pointing out he’s not the only tech ceo with a massive appetite for risk and some of it results in changing the way we live. Apple. That try-hard first with Facebook and now with the Metaverse. I responded with Amazon specifically because you mentioned them in your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Tesla will also almost certainly be the leader in driverless vehicle tech when that becomes widely approved.
    Musk cheaping out on Lidar was not good long term strategy and is what has left them behind. But if we ever get to driverless, he'll probably swoop in with the cash to correct that mistake after the heavy lifting is done and take the credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Musk's best trait, is his ability to consistently put longterm vision ahead of short term profit. All of his competitors in every field he is involved with, care exponentially more about the quarterly and yearly profit and financial reports, and appeasing shareholders and because of that, they arent able to take the massive risks that Musk is more than happy to take. No other companies the size of Tesla are nearly as financially volatile. No one else actively provides the urgency for progression and development that Musk does (by carrot or whip), no one is willing to take the the risk of spectacular failure like musk, and no one else throws gobs of money at problems like musk does even when common sense says its too risky. Even when things fail, they learn from it and the second time around is much improved, and he is OK with that whereas Ford or Amazon, or Boeing would never be OK with those kind of ups and downs. Because of all this, Musk's companies are the technological leaders in numerous incredibly important emerging tech fields (batteries, EVs, Space, driverless vehicles, etc). The old silicon valley adage of "move fast break stuff" was intended to apply to small startups looking to disrupt an industry, but musk is the only one to continue applying that adage once the company has grown to be an industry leader.
    Tesla has fallen behind on batteries. Their latest cell was a step backwards in cost and performance. They’ve now laid off 20% of the battery team and there are rumors it may be eliminated completely

    I’d also argue that they aren’t the leader in driverless vehicles, and they never will be because of Elon’s stupid idea that since humans can navigate with eyes an autonomous car will only need some cameras to work.

    And are they still the leader in EVs even? Hyundai seems to be making better products, whereas - save for the Cybertruck - the Tesla lineup is all long in the tooth with no schedule for replacement that I’m aware of. That’s not even mentioning what’s happening in China.

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    Hey, Amazon investing in long term risk:

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    Tesla has fallen behind on batteries. Their latest cell was a step backwards in cost and performance. They’ve now laid off 20% of the battery team and there are rumors it may be eliminated completely

    I’d also argue that they aren’t the leader in driverless vehicles, and they never will be because of Elon’s stupid idea that since humans can navigate with eyes an autonomous car will only need some cameras to work.

    And are they still the leader in EVs even? Hyundai seems to be making better products, whereas - save for the Cybertruck - the Tesla lineup is all long in the tooth with no schedule for replacement that I’m aware of. That’s not even mentioning what’s happening in China.
    In regards to EVs, tesla essentially brought the EV to mass market. Everyone else followed years and years behind, and it took a decade for them to get on equal footing despite much more MASSIVE industrial footprints and teams already in place . The argument that other manufacturers are better at EV now is a bit like arguing that Samsung and Pixel are better than iPhone... they are all really good now and there will always be the fanboys for Apply/Tesla. As far as i know, teslas batteries are still genearlly top of the class, just not as far ahead as before. And tesla has taken the R&D from their car batteries and applied it to large scale industrial batteries which will be KEY to powering the electrical grid once EVs are everywhere and we are more reliant on intermittent energy generation (one of my stocks picked on this very idea is up 500% in about a year).


    As for driverless vehicles, i am admitedly not well versed in the tech or state of the industry, but Tesla is the only one i ever really hear about pushing the limits (for better or worse) and with the monetary and power backing of Musk and possibly POTUS trump i can see them easily swallowing up other companies for their tech and adding it on last minute and again leaving the car industry behind for another decade+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    In regards to EVs, tesla essentially brought the EV to mass market. Everyone else followed years and years behind, and it took a decade for them to get on equal footing despite much more MASSIVE industrial footprints and teams already in place . The argument that other manufacturers are better at EV now is a bit like arguing that Samsung and Pixel are better than iPhone... they are all really good now and there will always be the fanboys for Apply/Tesla. As far as i know, teslas batteries are still genearlly top of the class, just not as far ahead as before. And tesla has taken the R&D from their car batteries and applied it to large scale industrial batteries which will be KEY to powering the electrical grid once EVs are everywhere and we are more reliant on intermittent energy generation (one of my stocks picked on this very idea is up 500% in about a year).


    As for driverless vehicles, i am admitedly not well versed in the tech or state of the industry, but Tesla is the only one i ever really hear about pushing the limits (for better or worse) and with the monetary and power backing of Musk and possibly POTUS trump i can see them easily swallowing up other companies for their tech and adding it on last minute and again leaving the car industry behind for another decade+.
    Waymo is literally running driverless taxis right now.

    I agree that industrial scale batteries are critical for green energy, but the critical technology is in the cells and their manufacture, and Tesla has fallen behind there (and may be giving up).

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