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05-21-2019, 10:53 AM #1801
Things people might want to acquire Tesla for
-Brand
-Tech
-Personnel
Everything else (factorys, solar biz, lawsuits, debt) are liabilities. I believe the BMW CEO said the only thing they'd be interested in from Tesla is the brand. No one is going to by Tesla for $18billion +$12 billion in debt right now.
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05-21-2019, 11:03 AM #1802Registered User
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You forgot to add their car insurance biz!
What is a mystery is how valuable their tech is. The model 3 is supposedly the most efficient electrical car out there, but didn't they open up their patents (all? some?) for all car manufacturers to use? So what is a secret, and what is not?
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05-21-2019, 11:09 AM #1803Jacket Cobbler
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ok we'll come up with a solution by then makers....
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05-21-2019, 12:43 PM #1804
This guy seems to have the numbers figured out.
reddit.com/teslainvestorsclub/debunking_the_elon_margin_call_myth/www.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
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05-21-2019, 01:25 PM #1805
Damn, dude is carrying a half a billion in personal loans?
Live Free or Die
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05-21-2019, 01:54 PM #1806
SpaceX is worth somewhere around 30 billion and he has multiple billionare friends, so I'm failing to see how Elon will ever be in that much trouble financially. Legally...well that could be a different story with his craziness.
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05-21-2019, 03:19 PM #1807
mortgaged bunch of his homes in December for $61 million https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ster-mortgages he's juggling lots of personal debt.
He's also juggling lots debt & resources between his corps. See this https://www.businessinsider.com/spac...ompany-2018-12 there's been cross purchases of bonds, also lots of other juggling of personnel, etc. based on reports.
It's one tangled mess of personal & business with a pretty high run rate. commuting 22 miles in your G650ER isn't cheap (nor is it good for the environment), once the empire starts to go if nothing else within it can prop it up .....
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05-21-2019, 03:30 PM #1808
Software &underlying electronic hardware is the thing that lots of people rave about their Tesla for. It's also imo the one thing that really differentiates it from the generally horrible computer offerings of other car companys. Batterys, motors, chassis, this is car shit car companys know it. The software/electronic stack is the part the legacys have had trouble with ime. How much that's worth? Who knows.
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05-22-2019, 12:38 PM #1809
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/te...ays-2019-05-21
morgan stanley bear case for tesla is 10/share and 390/share for the bulls
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05-22-2019, 02:03 PM #1810Registered User
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From that thread.
"And I know it's heresy to suggest that you can compare the valuation of Tesla with its genuinely class-leading tech and brand positioning to Volkswagen, but you know, if the company's not growing, you invite yourself to those comparisons."
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05-22-2019, 02:22 PM #1811
I'm starting to think that they really need to stop calling it "Autopilot" as it's really more of an enhanced cruise control.
I think Cadillac was smart in calling their (surprisingly excellent) system "Super Cruise":https://www.cadillac.com/world-of-ca...n/super-cruise
That seems a better description of where they're all at with the tech.
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05-22-2019, 02:26 PM #1812Registered User
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05-22-2019, 02:36 PM #1813
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05-22-2019, 02:56 PM #1814www.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
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05-22-2019, 04:00 PM #1815
And Elon is suing the Air Force now.
cnbc.com/2019/05/22/spacex-lawsuit-challenges-air-force-rocket-awards-to-competitors-including-jeff-bezos-blue-originwww.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
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05-22-2019, 04:21 PM #1816
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05-22-2019, 10:15 PM #1817
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05-23-2019, 06:33 AM #1818www.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
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05-23-2019, 07:36 AM #1819
TSLA's dropping and some dubious bit of news from halfway across the globe comes up to refute the bear narrative. That never happens with this stock
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05-23-2019, 08:20 AM #1820www.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
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05-23-2019, 08:31 AM #1821Registered User
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I like how possibly exceeding Q4 is suggested as an amazing achievement when when they were forecasting 50% growth for 2019 at the end of last year.
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05-23-2019, 09:03 AM #1822
That's just what a car with dubious quality control needs.
Announcing Fifth Bolt Friday! Effective immediately, every member of the assembly line team may omit every fifth bolt (or nut!) on the fifth day of the week. This time saving initiative will help us meet our 5000 unit goal.
...and coming soon: Torqueless Tuesdays!
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05-23-2019, 10:18 AM #1823
I don't think he's ever given a shit. He just moves from one hustle to the next in a rolling scheme of self-enrichment. the daisy chain of Tesla -> Space-X -> Boring -> Neuralink with him rolling resources from one to the next benefiting mostly himself and his family. the infuriating thing at this point is he's grasped it's the era of legal-realism. ain't nobody going to do fuckall to stop his bullshitting as long as he can drive a media narrative. Which is why he silences social media critics and there are so many random anonymous "leaks" at the right time.
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05-23-2019, 11:16 AM #1824
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05-23-2019, 12:52 PM #1825Rod9301
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Actually, waymo's system works really well, at like speeds though.
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