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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    I'm starting to think that they really need to stop calling it "Autopilot" as it's really more of an enhanced cruise control.
    They definitely should - not just from a safety perspective, but also to help manage inflated consumer expectations given the hype around autonomous vehicle tech. But they definitely won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    I'll take $37 wagers that TSLA does a reorg, bk or buyout under $125 before end of year. 1:1 odds.

    Elon gonna learn a little about the concavity of investor confidence in the months ahead.
    What was our bet? $80 January 2020. It has to close there, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    What was our bet? $80 January 2020. It has to close there, right?
    Poast reference needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    I'm starting to think that they really need to stop calling it "Autopilot" as it's really more of an enhanced cruise control.

    I think Cadillac was smart in calling their (surprisingly excellent) system "Super Cruise":https://www.cadillac.com/world-of-ca...n/super-cruise
    That seems a better description of where they're all at with the tech.
    Quote Originally Posted by mcb556 View Post
    They definitely should - not just from a safety perspective, but also to help manage inflated consumer expectations given the hype around autonomous vehicle tech. But they definitely won't.

    You forgot about the million autonomous taxis in 2020 and no steering wheel/pedals soon after. Autopilot will rule the roads then.



    I will be watching for 3's trying to auto brake check me from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    I bet $37 TSLA equity goes sub $80 by June 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Sure. That will keep it interesting.
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    ah right, off to a good start

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    This case has merit
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    That is pouring like an avalance coming down the mountian

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    pre-market low of 181.88 this morning. Now at 188

    here's the transcript on yesterday's cross-asset TSLA call. Pretty damning.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1v1qew51x...05_22.pdf?dl=0

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    TSLA's dropping and some dubious bit of news from halfway across the globe comes up to refute the bear narrative. That never happens with this stock

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    We shall find out in July if this is true

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    I like how possibly exceeding Q4 is suggested as an amazing achievement when when they were forecasting 50% growth for 2019 at the end of last year.

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    That's just what a car with dubious quality control needs.

    Announcing Fifth Bolt Friday! Effective immediately, every member of the assembly line team may omit every fifth bolt (or nut!) on the fifth day of the week. This time saving initiative will help us meet our 5000 unit goal.

    ...and coming soon: Torqueless Tuesdays!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    I'm starting to think that they really need to stop calling it "Autopilot" as it's really more of an enhanced cruise control.

    I think Cadillac was smart in calling their (surprisingly excellent) system "Super Cruise":https://www.cadillac.com/world-of-ca...n/super-cruise
    That seems a better description of where they're all at with the tech.
    One of the things that just reinforces my opposition to Musk is the decision making behind FSD/autopilot. It's obvious to me that, at some point, Musk realized Tesla wasn't viable. Likely in 2016 or 17. At that time he made the conscious decision to 'shoot the moon' and gamble the firm and public safety on his ability to do the undoable: not only create a cheap model 3 (now proved a lie) but also solve the FSD conundrum of creating a set of algorithms that can manage a world of infinite complexity. Both major gambles are showing themselves to be monstrous failures that will trigger billions in losses for investors alongside several customer deaths that otherwise would not have occurred. I don't know if he's indifferent to this result or just so adept at lying to himself that it didn't register, but either way he's a corrosive motherf***er that deserves everything that's coming his way.

    Of course, he'll cry and moan all the way to bankruptcy. And the govt will likely bail him out of SpaceX at minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    It's obvious to me that, at some point, Musk realized Tesla wasn't viable. Likely in 2016 or 17.
    I don't think he's ever given a shit. He just moves from one hustle to the next in a rolling scheme of self-enrichment. the daisy chain of Tesla -> Space-X -> Boring -> Neuralink with him rolling resources from one to the next benefiting mostly himself and his family. the infuriating thing at this point is he's grasped it's the era of legal-realism. ain't nobody going to do fuckall to stop his bullshitting as long as he can drive a media narrative. Which is why he silences social media critics and there are so many random anonymous "leaks" at the right time.

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    A duplicitous & amoral confidence man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    I'm starting to think that they really need to stop calling it "Autopilot" as it's really more of an enhanced cruise control.

    I think Cadillac was smart in calling their (surprisingly excellent) system "Super Cruise":https://www.cadillac.com/world-of-ca...n/super-cruise
    That seems a better description of where they're all at with the tech.
    But, but, but, you just don't understand. Autopilot doesn't do everything in a plane, what ever would make you think it would do everything involved in driving your car????

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    Actually, waymo's system works really well, at like speeds though.

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    At low speeds

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    Dumbfree SpaceX is a profitable business that has taken over the industry and knocked competitors out. Russia got utterly destroyed by spacex
    ULA is only persistent due to entrenched government contracts. Spacex is winning over 65% of contracts and growing in a market that is also growing. Name:  SpaceX.jpeg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Dumbfree SpaceX is a profitable business
    Investors don't get to see SpaceX finances, how did you? Put up the numbers, don't Musk it.

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    Hey, wait, just hear me out on this. What if you had big cars attached to each other in that tunnel, oh, say, six or seven of them holding maybe 100 people each. There would be frequent stops at stations along the way, where people could exit or board the cars. Sure, they could be self driving, the tech is there. Whatdoyathink? What would we call this new contraption..........

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    But they let poor people on underground rail, Benny. You miss the whole point!

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