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01-24-2023, 11:07 PM #4351
He’s a free speech absolutist.
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/..._1xci3BDf_V1_Q
Safe to assume China is throwing their weight around too.
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01-25-2023, 06:04 PM #4352Registered User
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Or money....
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01-30-2023, 08:51 AM #4353
Trump apparently doesn't want to be friends with Elon, introduces new topic to his rally speech:
"The cars go for like two hours. What are you going to do? Everyone's going to be sitting on the highway. We're all going to be looking for a little plug-in. Does anybody have a plug-in? My car just stopped. I've been driving for an hour and 51 minutes. It's ridiculous."
Bwahahaha. Kicked in the balls by his new friends. Proving once again that pivoting to the right was the dumbest, most tone deaf, On The Spectrum thing Elon has ever done. Tesla market share getting destroyed in Europe.
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01-30-2023, 09:45 AM #4354
I will be happy to see Tesla plummet and crash and burn as a direct result of his big fucking stupid mouth.
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01-30-2023, 09:54 AM #4355Registered User
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Up like 40% over the past month tho ...
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01-30-2023, 05:47 PM #4356
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01-30-2023, 10:26 PM #4357
Cool vid, but even though the recent buyer of a used Tesla was faced with a $24K battery replacement bill, obviously that never came out of his pocket, and it's never mentioned how much (or how little) he paid for the car. Tesla drive batteries typically hold up for about 250K miles. Bummer if you buy one near its end of life hoping to duck-tape it into a year or so of semi-reliable clunker miles, which is something you can certainly do with a lot of other cars. But really, 250K is decent longevity for any car, and overall cost-of-ownership-per-mile pencils out reasonably even if you junk it well before that.
(And FY for making me say something that comes across as a defense of douchebag Elon Musk.)
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01-31-2023, 12:04 AM #4358
Also, if you replace a battery at 250k miles, don’t you get another 200-250k miles out of that car relatively maintenance free?
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01-31-2023, 12:12 AM #4359
Heh. All the little doodads in vehicles outside of the drivetrain notwithstanding, show me one consumer grade piece of electronic hardware that could support the evolution of software past 10yrs, let alone last 20. How easy will it be to upgrade the computer in that Tesla to handle the software updates. Shit get less durable with tech advancement it seems, not more. I see no change in that trend with electric vehicles.
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01-31-2023, 12:22 AM #4360Registered User
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Buddy has had a model S for about 7 years now, all kinds of goofy things happening with the electronics. He only keeps it because he is grandfathered in for free charging.
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02-01-2023, 03:05 PM #4361
I don’t follow this crazy dude but I wanted to look up something he supposedly said on Twitter and it appears he has locked his tweets.
What an odd duck.
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02-01-2023, 03:16 PM #4362
Yep, because car software in ICE vehicles has rendered 2000's era cars inoperable.
Seriously.
In Tesla's case they cheap out and don't use automotive grade stuff, so no shit they're going to fall apart - they aren't built for the heat cycling and vibration. - https://www.thedrive.com/tech/27989/...-grade-matters
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02-01-2023, 03:34 PM #4363
My 03 taco has a solid state computer. No updates needed. Same with my 2012 Hyundai Elantra. On the other hand, my 2015 Silverado has received at least one update to the software since we purchased it, but I don’t know how sensitive the system is to corruption or other I/O concerns for basic operation.
I don’t have a telsa, and haven’t chatted with the guy locally that does lately. But it would appear based on posts here that the software needs for even basic operation are far more important in those vehicles. With your link showing the durability of the hardware is lacking, just how prone are these things to leaving you stranded on the road? Might no be in issue in a well-populated area in the US, but lots of places here that if you break down, no cell service, traffic is limited especially at night, and you might be stranded for several hours. I can wrench on an ICE and limp it for 20km, but I’m no software engineer able to get a computer back in operation if it decides to shit the bed in the middle of nowhere.
Maybe this isn’t an issue and I am tilting at windmills, but greater reliance on a complex hardware-software system doesn’t fill me with optimism.
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02-01-2023, 03:51 PM #4364www.dpsskis.com
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formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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02-01-2023, 04:20 PM #4365
In terms of reliance on complex software, that ship probably sailed in 2010. What's changed about these days is over the air updates (ie not at the dealer) are possible given wifi/cell connections. Anything possible of that is a good idea to update as hacks will continue to develop and need to be stamped out.
I'll also say that plenty of cars have a "limp" mode for exactly what you describe that keeps them functioning.
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02-01-2023, 06:49 PM #4366
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02-01-2023, 06:54 PM #4367
If I had a nickel for every time my steering wheel fell off I’d have change for a nickel
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02-01-2023, 09:23 PM #4368
Doesn't seem like it.
According to RepairPal, the average Tesla maintenance cost is $832 per year. That compares to an average of $652 per year for all car models sold in the United States. Depending on which services your Tesla needs, you may end up spending much more than the average car owner on yearly maintenance needs.
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Though not much information exists yet about the overall reliability of Tesla models, early results aren’t encouraging. In the J.D. Power 2021 U.S. Vehicle Dependability StudySM, Tesla ranked 30th of 33 car brands for overall reliability. That’s better than only Jaguar, Alfa Romeo, and Land Rover among all automakers across the country.
https://jalopnik.com/advisor/tesla-m...l%20automakers.j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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02-02-2023, 03:59 PM #4369
To be fair, excluding the cost of gasoline is kind of an unfair comparison. That sort of adds up. Apples to oranges unless comparing Tesla to other EV's.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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02-02-2023, 04:34 PM #4370
You mean in the maintenance costs? I don't think fuel (petro or electric) is normally included in that. But I agree, total out of pocket costs would be something like:
Ownership / Maintenance costs
Insurance / Licensing
Fueling / Energy
And maybe a depreciation for avg. ownership length
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02-02-2023, 04:44 PM #4371
for sure, but there’s a myth about how EV’s are going to put mechanics out of work and it doesn’t seem to be in any way accurate.
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02-02-2023, 04:50 PM #4372
Excluding the cost of gas vs electric might be fair if there was some way to figure out exactly what people spend to charge. But this runs the gamut of free from my solar panels to chargers operating like an ATM in a casino with a $6 fee for withdrawal.
But reading what many EV bro brau's say there is always the statement that maintenance is cheaper.www.apriliaforum.com
"If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?
"I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
Ottime
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02-02-2023, 04:53 PM #4373
Probable not, but they’ll start calling themselves Engineers, and doubling their shop rates accordingly.
Local shop mechanic scored very high in grade school maths, was a wizard in the shop (kind of guy who could built an engine from a blank of steel in his early teens), and everyone thought he’d go to uni and become some form of engineer. But all he wanted to do was stay in a small town and wrench on vehicles. Best mechanic I’ve ever had. He’s not impressed by EV’s so much, but figures ICE’s will be around long enough for his career.
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02-02-2023, 11:27 PM #4374Registered User
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If you are splitting hairs over ownership costs, I was pleasantly surprised to not need a brake job as often. But yeah, I'll say you can count on plenty of work servicing and maintaining machines in the auto industry for a long time.
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02-03-2023, 11:48 AM #4375
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