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06-07-2022, 10:16 AM #3051www.dpsskis.com
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Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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06-07-2022, 10:20 AM #3052Originally Posted by blurred
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06-07-2022, 10:32 AM #3053
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06-07-2022, 10:52 AM #3054
I’ve only got a few rides on them so far, but I’ve been impressed by the new Vittoria Syerra. ~850g with a substantial casing, these seem like they’ll wind up being my go to fast rolling tire. I absolutely hate the giant red hot patch though, fucking hideous.
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06-07-2022, 12:22 PM #3055
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06-07-2022, 01:14 PM #3056
Man, I'd love if my e13 AT came in a 2.6 up front. They seem to be getting out of the tire game.
Also seems like semi slicks once again came and went. Is something like a Rekon or Martello that much better?
E13's very generous 2.35 SS is way faster than a much smaller 2.3 Aggressor.
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06-07-2022, 05:05 PM #3057
Schwalbe Rock Razor semi slick rules. You better know how to handle the drift or your gonna hate it. I absolutely love it for most Colorado terrian.
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06-09-2022, 09:06 AM #3058
Mazza question on 2.6 vs 2.4
My biggest reason for using DHRs over DHF was the DHF's empty channels between the center and shoulder knobs that left the tire feeling vague when not vertical or hard leaned... empty channels that just got wider with wider casings accentuating the vague drifting problem such that I felt more secure on a 2.35DHF than a 2.5 because when Maxxis grew the casing, they kept the knobs all the same size, just increasing the spacing between the side knobs from the center tread. IMO this vagueness problem on wider DHFs is the primary reason that people liked Mary's and Michelins... and why Maxis created the Assegai.
The Mazza is DHFish but doesn't have a giant empty channel... at least not on the 2.4. Has anyone looked at a 2.6 side by side with a 2.4 to see if it has a larger empty channel or if Vittoria compensated lug size/spacing to avoid this?Originally Posted by blurred
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06-09-2022, 09:09 AM #3059
I'll answer your Mazza 2.6 to 2.4 in a few days. Been running a 2.4 for a while but got a 2.6 to replace it.
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06-09-2022, 09:14 AM #3060www.dpsskis.com
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Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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06-09-2022, 09:17 AM #3061
While I'm a much better biker now than I was when I used to run DHFs.... ya I commit to full leans, I just don't see the advantage of only having the choice of full lean or straight up-and-down if I don't want drift. Some people like the drift and use it to move their line to the outside, but that's not part of my riding style.
Originally Posted by blurred
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06-09-2022, 09:40 AM #3062yelgatgab
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The advantage of that channel is that there aren't intermediate knobs interfering with the shoulder knobs preventing them from digging in and gripping. It makes it possible to reliably rail turns and makes the tire much more predictable, making it easier to find the breaking point so that you can push the tire without worrying about it unexpectedly breaking loose (Nevegal). FWIW, I'm a Maxxis fanboi but rarely drift intentionally. I ride them because they corner well and are predictable (some more than others).
Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.
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06-09-2022, 09:41 AM #3063
The advantage is that tires without transitional knobs can (theoretically) yield more grip at maximum lean. Grip is just a function of the knobs digging into the dirt, and the more pressure on any given knob, the more it can dig in. If you have a side knob trying to dig into the dirt, it'll do that better if there's nothing around it - all the pressure is directed onto that knob. If you add an in-board transitional knob next to it, some of the pressure on that side knob is now being directed into the transitional knob, but (on a fully leaned bike), that transitional knob isn't situated correctly to really dig into the dirt, so the end result is just less pressure on the side knob, and therefore less grip. So a tire with transitional knobs will corner better at moderate lean angles, but if you're fully leaned over, a tire without transitional knobs will yield more grip.
Of course, the details matter, and the dirt matters. In legitimately soft dirt, transitional knobs probably aren't really reducing the pressure on the side knobs much at all. And a lot of corners don't really favor maximum lean angles, so the benefits of a channeled tire are a bit lost.
Also worth noting that most of the successful tires that have transitional knobs have transitional knobs that are pretty small, and pretty spaced out. Both Assegai and Magic Mary have small-ish transitional knobs every other row, so there's a bit more grip at moderate lean angles, but the tires largely function like a channeled tire (just with a bit less driftiness in the transition). Compare that to something like the Nevegal that has big transitional knobs on every row, which results in death.
edit: bagtagley beat me to it with 90% less words. Funny that we both picked on the Nevegal though. That tire sucked.
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06-09-2022, 09:57 AM #3064Registered User
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New Season, New Tires, New Thread
What’s your use for the 2.6?
I’m running a 2.4 Mazza and it’s the same size as my Aggressor 2.5”. Reading reviews, the 2.6 doesn’t seem that much wider than the 2.4 and there’s a significant weight penalty. Unless you really need as wide a Mazza as you can get, I’d go 2.4.
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06-09-2022, 09:58 AM #3065
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06-09-2022, 09:59 AM #3066
Now, for a back tire, I like a bit of drift, as I suck at riding bikes but like to go reasonably fast... so it helps the rear end come around for me.
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Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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06-09-2022, 10:00 AM #3067
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06-09-2022, 10:13 AM #3068
I appreciate the tire guru commentary!
The Nevegal had a safety factor: it was too slow to need extra grip but seriously though, I tried Nevegal after running DHF/DHF, hated Nevegal, and went to the Marys (good slow) then to DHR2 (good fast).
Yea the Nevegal is on the list of bad ole tires next to the DHR1.
Gravity to replace 2.6 DHR...
Trail wheels: 2.4 Mazza Trail / 2.4 Dissector Exo+
Gravity wheels... Mazza 2.6 Trail? vs 2.4 Enduro? / Kaiser Projekt 2.4
Yea going to the Enduro casing and/or the 2.6 seems to add 300-400g to the Mazza!Originally Posted by blurred
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06-09-2022, 10:51 AM #3069
FWIW the 2.4 Mazza on my one bike is only slightly narrower than the 2.5 Assguy on the other bike. I do think the Mazza feels a LOT like a DHF but with less vagueness at moderate lean angles. They have slightly less maximum grip than the Assguys, but roll much faster. It's been long enough since I ran a DHF that it's hard for me to directly compare maximum grip DHF vs. Mazza but I think they're pretty damn similar, at least in the loose sandy soil around here.
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06-09-2022, 12:06 PM #3070
I did quite a bit of back to back testing of the DHF and Assegai as a front tire last season, and ended up preferring the DHF. Theres no doubt that the Assegai has some more grip, and more grip at shallow lean angles. But I felt like the transitional knobs of the Assegai did not allow me to easily lean the bike over that far. Like you would hit the transition knobs and it did not really want to lean much further than that. The DHF seem more versatile in the sense that I could hit all lean angles much easier, and get it to lean over further more comfortably.
This year going to also try some Hutchinson Griffus 2.5/2.4 trail casing with Tubolight Evo HD inserts. Will be interesting to see have that setup works!
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06-09-2022, 12:15 PM #3071
Were the assegais squared off? What rim width?
Originally Posted by blurred
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06-09-2022, 12:21 PM #3072
Assguys look like a boat anchor.
I have never noticed any SS treads being drifty. If anything they can produce a weird feeling where they lock in more quickly than the front. Sometimes manufacturers compensate for this with side knob design.
Because the center knobs are so small, if you lean at all they start hooking up.
As I'm riding harder and learning to corner better, I do wish the e13 AT was rounder.
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06-09-2022, 01:51 PM #3073Registered User
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My new bike last year came with assegai, 2.5 front and back. So far I’ve been happy with them. Came from DHF/DHR on the last bike. Many variables have changed from old bike to new bike but the assegais seem to have better traction and I’m more comfortable leaning the bike in corners. Im slow uphill regardless of tire. I’m able to carry more speed this year but that could be 27.5 to 29 or Chris King hubs to I9 hubs. I’ll keep the tires until they are worn and see what’s out there when it’s time to replace.
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06-09-2022, 02:00 PM #3074
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06-09-2022, 05:08 PM #3075
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