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    The Eagle Has Landed: SRAM Eagle 1x12

    I for one am just stoked it still uses the XD driver. Will likely be putting this on my next bike. I see no reason not to at this point. 500% gear range in a 1x system. A lot of people talk smack about a 50T cog, but if it allows me to use a slightly bigger chainring to get a higher top speed with no loss of a bail out gear then I don't care how big it is.

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    I agree that it looks sweet. My only concerns are with having an even narrower chain and spacing between cogs. I find I already wear out 11 speed chains quite a bit quicker than 10'speed, and 11 is fairly sensitive to correct adjustment. I can only guess 12 speed will be worse in these areas.

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    Shit shifting for what? Bike world has lost its mind

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    1x10 still serves me just fine, not trying to roadie out on the singletrack

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Shit shifting for what? Bike world has lost its mind
    My 11 speed XX1 shifts perfectly after 2,000+ miles with literally no adjustment and I have yet to wear out a chain. If yours is shifting poorly maybe it just needs a little tune up. What is yours doing?

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    The Eagle Has Landed: SRAM Eagle 1x12

    Sweet. Cheaper 1x11. $40 derailleurs are critical to my riding style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couloirman View Post
    My 11 speed XX1 shifts perfectly after 2,000+ miles with literally no adjustment and I have yet to wear out a chain. If yours is shifting poorly maybe it just needs a little tune up. What is yours doing?
    Must be nice to be ballin with xx1. Have fun on new 12 bling.

    Know what is funny Lindahl? Wholesale price on xx1 derailleur is over $200. Cassette is even more.

    Turned into a rich man's sport. It has always been dominated by gear nerds. I can't wait to get an e-bike.

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    Meh

    I've got a gx 11sp derailleur that works just fine.

    You won't hear any complaints from me for understandably chastising an increasingly rich prick's sport but you don't need to buy XX1 stuff. I sure as shit don't and I have two bikes right now with scram 11sp setups.
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    What does 500% mean, exactly? 500% of what, the wavy lines?


    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couloirman View Post
    My 11 speed XX1 shifts perfectly after 2,000+ miles with literally no adjustment and I have yet to wear out a chain. If yours is shifting poorly maybe it just needs a little tune up. What is yours doing?
    At 2k mi I feel like you should drop a chain checker in that thing.

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    Does Eagle even oval bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    What does 500% mean, exactly? 500% of what, the wavy lines?


    Are you high or just stupid?

    Largest cog (50) is 500% of smallest cog (10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron's ghost View Post
    Does Eagle even oval bro?
    Are you saying the price of 11 speed ovals is about to plummet? Damn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    What does 500% mean, exactly? 500% of what, the wavy lines?


    Something like this, I suppose.

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    Considering you have to buy an entirely new drivetrain (with the exception of possibly the cranks) and the price is ridiculously high, I predict 1x12 is going to be only slightly more popular than XTR Di2.

    I can see this being put on the highest-end builds, but it's going to take a while for things to filter down to those looking to upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Are you saying the price of 11 speed ovals is about to plummet? Damn it.
    If you're thinking I'm saying what I think you think I'm saying...I'm not saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Considering you have to buy an entirely new drivetrain (with the exception of possibly the cranks) and the price is ridiculously high, I predict 1x12 is going to be only slightly more popular than XTR Di2.

    I can see this being put on the highest-end builds, but it's going to take a while for things to filter down to those looking to upgrade.
    It's only been 4 years since XX1 first came out. In that time, there's been what, 4 or 5 levels of trickle down 11 speed stuff? And now they've bumped to 12 speed. I would assume they'll trickle it down at more or less the same pace - a new lower priced group every year.

    I'm just wondering if trickle down 12 speed will phase out 11 speed, or if they'll keep both 11 and 12 speed options on the market.

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    ...and I'm just finally getting ready to go 1x10 with the new crop of 42t 10sp cassettes. me = Luddite

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    Just ordered 11sp xt, moving on from my 3x9.

    Don't need no stinking eagles

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    It's only been 4 years since XX1 first came out. In that time, there's been what, 4 or 5 levels of trickle down 11 speed stuff? And now they've bumped to 12 speed. I would assume they'll trickle it down at more or less the same pace - a new lower priced group every year.

    I'm just wondering if trickle down 12 speed will phase out 11 speed, or if they'll keep both 11 and 12 speed options on the market.
    That was more my read. 12 speed XX1 group = cheaper 1x11 options. I run a 34 tooth chainring with a 44 tooth granny gear and like that combo a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    ...and I'm just finally getting ready to go 1x10 with the new crop of 42t 10sp cassettes. me = Luddite
    Haha. Still like my 2x10.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    For me, gear range is more important than number of gears. I am not trying to hit that perfect cadence on a mountain bike like I would with a road bike. With my 1x11 setup; six of the gears are just stepping stones to get to the five gears I ride in most of the time (bailout gear, climbing gear, middle cruiser, and two high gears for jammin'.)

    I would be super happy with friction-less 5 gear transmission hidden in the crank paired with a belt drive.
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    retail at 2,000 USD hahahahahaahahahhahahahahaha
    Terje was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindahl View Post
    Sweet. Cheaper 1x11. $40 derailleurs are critical to my riding style.
    nailed it
    Terje was right.

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    No electric version?

    I kind of want it though.

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