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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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07-25-2021, 01:07 AM #11001
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07-25-2021, 06:49 AM #11002
^^ Love that with the yellow sidewalls
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07-25-2021, 10:30 AM #11003
Who's been on the full-size BG tour in the resort? The leftovers are tempting...
They'd be for 6"+ days only. Zero touring. Yes I know 'wrong tool' but....I had C&D's a couple of years ago and liked the rounder flex. Wondering if that's a good comparison.
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07-25-2021, 11:11 AM #11004
So, on the new BG118, I see that the mount point was moved back slightly (not sure how far) in addition to the tail rocker profile being changed.
Interesting.In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...
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07-25-2021, 12:33 PM #11005Registered User
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I’m on the front range looking for a chargy dd. I’m just under 5.10, weigh 150#. Mostly a weekend warrior/eldora Friday afternoons type - I like to go fast yet retain mobility in the trees. Was thinking the WD102 (182) is it. I’m smitten by the sex factor of the 110 but fear that most of my days aren’t a great match for its sweet spot.
Thoughts on my rationale/proposed length?
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07-25-2021, 12:50 PM #11006
I think you're on the right track length and width wise. I think most of the sex appeal on the WD110 vs the WD102 is the graphic, but right now you can get a different than stock graphic on the WD102 for the same price.
FWIW, I skied my old JMos (181cm, 101mm) in pretty deep snow and they did just fine.
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07-25-2021, 01:07 PM #11007Registered User
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I know this is kinda obvious, but it all comes down a tradeoff and what types of traits you want them to exibit.
I think BGtours will be exceedingly good pow skis in all but the most challenging conditions where the extra heft and stiffness of the regular BG will give them the advantage (probably by a fairly big margin). BGtours will be even more nimble and easy to throw around compared to stock due to their lower weight, and should be more floaty due to their rounder flex. The rounder flex and lower weight will make them less potent at smashing through stuff, though. BGtours will be more work in variable (do less of the job for you), but less work in pow (lower swing weight and more float). They are probably awesome in drier snow. I guess they will feel even looser if you mount them with standard alpine bindings with so much of the weight being underfoot. Def worth a try imho.
I've only been on BG108tours and standard BGs, but the former still skis awesomely imho and is plenty potent. They are no noodles. Sorry to speculate without having been on the skis, but the effects of the lighter build seem kinda logical
This is the only review I've seen on woods102s. There has been very little chatter in this thread on the wood102s as far as I can recall.
They should fit the bill nicely, though there are two more options in addition to stock you can consider;
1) woods102 with titanal ordered through customs - I think it is supposed to be a choice in the builder or will be at some point, but they have made some in the past. The addition of titanal should make em even more capable at speed and in difficult conditions. Iggy has stated that they find that the regular layup is better for soft snow, but woods102tis seem like an increadibly versatile ski to me. My plan was originally to get such a pair this summer, before getting a pair of wood96s in the custom leftover sale.
2) wrenegade102 tis. More directional and a bit less lively on groomers, but still plenty nimble in soft snow and surprisingly approachable / easy to ski for how capable that they are. I've not tried 102s, but have time on wren96s, wren96tis and multiple pairs of wren108s - all are very good skis for directional skiers who want to go fast, yet relatively loose for what they are and easy to ski in soft snow.
Also consider calling/sending an email to ON3P and asking for their advice - theirs is usually spot on.
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07-25-2021, 01:30 PM #11008Registered User
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07-25-2021, 04:00 PM #11009
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07-25-2021, 04:57 PM #11010Registered User
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Originally Posted by jm2e:
To be a JONG is no curse in these unfortunate times. 'Tis better that than to be alone.
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07-25-2021, 06:57 PM #11011
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07-25-2021, 07:08 PM #11012
They are in FL and Everglades a nice name for a tree ski
Uno mas
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07-25-2021, 09:22 PM #11013
Anyone able to contrast the 50/50 with a standard on3p layup as a dedicated pow ski? Really eyeing the 192 x 118 goat
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07-25-2021, 09:33 PM #11014
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07-25-2021, 10:35 PM #11015
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07-25-2021, 10:42 PM #11016
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07-26-2021, 08:29 AM #11017
Jogging my summer memory here. +1.5 SG vs Wren 110 Pros…
For 187 vs 193 they don’t feel exceptionality different in length, probably due to the SG more pronounced rocker profile. While they share similar DNA and behavior they’re completely different skis. The flat tail being the most difference between the two. The Wren tail is loud and proud ready to support/punish whenever needed, while the SG is more stiff all over and progressive, the tail is there but not punishing. SG enjoys being driven, the Wren Pro, only, likes to be driven.
The tip taper on the Wren Pro definitely impacts turn initiation and it’s crud/variable abilities, it slices and doesn’t get caught up on anything. If you’re comfortable with straight sidecut, it does rail hardpack when finessed. While the tip of the Supergoats planes and rises in almost all conditions. And does exceptionally well in chopped up powder.
I grab the Wren 110 Pros for any conditions, they’re great. I grab the Supergoats when there’s powder.
They’re very different but both reward being driven. However the geometry of how these skis are driven is very different as well. Wren 110 favor a forward stance is pretty much all conditions were as the SG move from center to forward.
Both mounted with Pivot 15s.
I first fell in love with ON3P with the 184 Steeple 103 Tour (Wood topsheets). Skied them everywhere. Yurt trips, inbounds, variable. Fantastic ski. The lighter weight required a bit more attention but they’ve treated me well over these years. Current mounted with Hagan Pures. Their shape is similar to a “mini” BG. This is why I’m probably going to custom a 192 BG 110 50/50 and throw Cast on ‘em. Looking for a blend of all the DNA stated above.
I don’t tailgun. 240# empty, more geared up, 6”1’.
Other Skis I love: DPS L120 & L138, Blizzard 185 Cochise & 196 Bodacious, Blizzard Spur (OG Straight), Praxis Protest (😬,
Other Skis I hate: Volkl V-Werk Katana, DPS Wailer 99 & 112, DPS F106 🤢, Armada Declivity, 188 Black Crows Corvus
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07-26-2021, 10:48 AM #11018
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07-26-2021, 11:29 AM #11019
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07-26-2021, 11:49 AM #11020Registered User
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07-26-2021, 11:57 AM #11021
Ren (Owls) - Awesome soft snow ski but punishing once things get cut up. I've been on mine in the b/c a few times and daily resort skiing Japan maybe 5yrs ago. Not nearly versatile enough as a resort ski for me in the western US. Unique feel that always took a few laps for me to get used to.
Hoji (Red/White) - My daily b/c ski for CO and lots of different areas in the western US over 4+(?) seasons. Not stout enough for a true 50/50 imo. Smaller sweet spot than many other skis. Solid if not spectacular (B+). Mine are pretty beat FWIW. New one might be different.
BG (Whitewash/fence graphic 2014?) - Best "suspension" of any of these three hands down. Crush variable. Mine are mounted for resort, and I look for excuses to take them out over narrower skis any time the snow is soft (4"+), mostly because I like the suspension feel so much. Not loose like a Ren or 138 but very loose, just different. I'm convinced I ski better on these than anything else I own. For Japan I can't imagine picking the narrower option.
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07-26-2021, 12:40 PM #11022
I know people who ride the BG Tour inside the resort and love it.
I rode the stock BG for 3 years. While it is great (and seemingly purpose-built) for PNW snow, I felt it actually had more heft and stiffness than was completely necessary in Utah snow (for me at 180lbs anyway).
Assuming you're relatively light on your feet, I would expect that the BG Tour could actually be the better pow ski for Utah/Colorado/Wyoming conditions.
Now that they have a 50/50 layup option, I think that's the only configuration I'll take for any future ON3P purchases...
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07-26-2021, 12:47 PM #11023
No comparison, but a comment.
I guess the 110 and 118 will be similarly loose, but the 118 will demand less speed to become loose. (if they share the rest of the geometry)
Kinda like the difference between the current BG and the C&D.
For deep loose JPow I'd go 118.
Skied the OG C&Ds vs GPOs in Niseko a few years back. No contest in the trees.
If you ski more alpine terrain the 110 might be good, but the old 116 is crazy good in breakable crusts etc
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07-26-2021, 01:02 PM #11024Registered User
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07-26-2021, 01:11 PM #11025
I can't disagree more, there's absolutely no reason that I would want to trade my standard layup BG for tour or 50/50 for CO resort pow skiing.
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