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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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11-18-2019, 12:29 PM #7401
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11-18-2019, 12:31 PM #7402
I know all those points and stated them (maybe just implied them) earlier. It would be a huge shift that may not ever see the light of day.
But from my comfortable armchair, those compromises are acceptable if the RES shape can port over to a light build. The shape is the driver.
I don't need thick bases or edges on pure touring skis. I don't need it to feel like a legacy layup. I need a shape that is refined for natural snow, in a weight class that I can climb 10k/day. Not something to skip out the gate for a 600ft little gape lap.
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11-18-2019, 05:08 PM #7403
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11-18-2019, 07:20 PM #7404
Received a pair of 191 12/13 bearclaw BGs today.
RES says mount on the line?In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...
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11-18-2019, 07:25 PM #7405
Line.
Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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11-18-2019, 07:39 PM #7406
^^^ Excellent.
But how much does this guy really know about the Billy Goat?
Pretty stoked.
I've been following the near blanket enthusiasm for this ski and people seem to love the 12/13 RES.
Thought that it would overlap with my Lhasa Pow Fat too much, but some have counselled me that they ski much differently.
Time will tell.In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...
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11-18-2019, 11:19 PM #7407
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11-18-2019, 11:20 PM #7408
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11-18-2019, 11:29 PM #7409Registered User
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^Yeah, lol.
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11-18-2019, 11:50 PM #7410
Someone mounted a pair backwards. You could try that instead
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11-19-2019, 11:20 AM #7411
Haha!
That topsheet is pretty confusing.In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...
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11-19-2019, 11:32 AM #7412Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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11-19-2019, 11:40 AM #7413
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11-19-2019, 12:03 PM #7414
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11-19-2019, 02:32 PM #7415King potato
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11-19-2019, 03:08 PM #7416
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11-19-2019, 03:30 PM #7417
Lhasa is more nose high and likes to bounce, goat more neutral, feels more like you are riding the whole ski and making more lateral moves and less vertical moves. Both are fun, both float well
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11-19-2019, 03:37 PM #7418Registered User
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Wut? Sorry man but that’s not an accurate description of the Lhasa FAT by any stretch. From what i recall, you haven’t been on the FAT, i thought you skied the Lhasa Pow which is 112 underfoot which is a way different ski than the FAT. Both skis are very planted, lhasa has more edge feel as it should. Goat is looser, not a ton after the tail rocker modification. Both skis kick ass.
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11-19-2019, 03:41 PM #7419
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11-19-2019, 03:43 PM #7420
Yeah I was talking about the Lhasa. I agree with the fat, based on my one run on yours. I prefer the goat feel either way
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11-20-2019, 09:51 AM #7421
I think we’re saying the same thing actually. When I, and I think others, mention an 1800g BG at that length, sacrifices are the exact request. I mean a acrifices are specifically what we are looking for. Right?
I should have phrased it: ON3P touring layups, and skis like the Steeple, have not sacrificed enough performance and many of us would like an 1800g BG with whatever sacrifices are necessary.
Asking for identical performance in lighter package is an unrealistic expectation totally agree. But that’s a silly request not one that anyone is making I don’t think? Touring skis are light by design and thus often delicate compared to their inbounds cousins.
if ON3P deviating from past philosophy is an unrealistic expectation, then yeah, I guess I am asking for something unrealistic.
it can def be done btw with sacrifices. The Wildcat Tour (116mm) and Atomic Bent (120mm) both weigh 1800g in tape-pull 189cm.
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11-20-2019, 10:38 AM #7422
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11-20-2019, 11:02 AM #7423Registered User
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I think ON3P should make these un-ON3P skis under a different LLC/Brand called NON3P, and name them the WeightWeenies. This way, the TGR crowd gets what they want, and ON3P doesnt risk blowing their reputation for stiff, heavy, damp PNW-centric skis.
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11-20-2019, 11:21 AM #7424
Fucks sake.
Nobody wants the heavy skis to go away.
The request is for a light build in a renowned shape... to COMPLIMENT the existing powerhouse build. It wouldn't harm the brand's reputation in the least to have the name on a light ski.
I'll continue to ride the resort with Lange 130s and solid-toe pivots on bamboo... fuckin stout.
Appropriate tools for the task, etc.
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11-20-2019, 12:03 PM #7425
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