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  1. #8626
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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-kapow View Post
    Seems like ON3P touring specific skis will be re-introduced for 2021
    this is most welcome news.

    somebody send the man a pallet of booze so he can tolerate the summer of retarded discourse
    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

  2. #8627
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    Next year as in 21/22? Let the stoke commence!

  3. #8628
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    no, as in 20/21 Or that is the way I interpreted it - I might be mistaken.

    The reply from Iggy quoted above came after somebody noticed that the touring options no longer were available in the custom builder and asked why.

  4. #8629
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    Flying goats

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  5. #8630
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    this is most welcome news.

    somebody send the man a pallet of booze so he can tolerate the summer of retarded discourse
    There better be 190+ extra stiff Billy Goats that weigh 900g/ski or I'm not interested
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

  6. #8631
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalated View Post
    There better be 190+ extra stiff Billy Goats that weigh 900g/ski or I'm not interested
    Yep. Bastids
    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

  7. #8632
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    OMG. Kusala thread had me collab curious and now this. need more details stat

  8. #8633
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    I do not know if this is just Iggy/ON3P posting either retro or custom stuff to get people excited or if shorter length BGs indeed are on their way back, but if the latter - then happy news. I would assume the former though, as a 174 BG perhaps would make more sense length wise. I dunno. Can't wait for the 2021 line to drop.

    ON3P IG just now
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  9. #8634
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    Retro top for a custom. Also old photo - we're definitely recycling old production content with all that is happening (I don't handle stories unless it is a specific sale/promo post).

    As for short BGs, we can just barely justify keeping the 179cm, let alone reintroducing any shorter sizes. Sales of the other two sizes are like 10x. I'm really only keeping it around this year for the tour options in 108/116.
    Seriously, this canít turn into yet another ON3P thread....

  10. #8635
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    Thanks for chiming in Iggy! I hope you guys are doing well.

    Too bad that a re-introduction of shorter BGs is not nigh, though if the numbers are not there then it totally makes sense.

    It kinda makes me wonder how many committed buyers for a 17short BGs a SG-group-buy-type thread / champagne room deal would/could generate The iris graphic mated with a shorter length and narrower width BG could prove kinda popular. Hell, I am guessing that graphic will be super duper popular if you introduce that graphic as a custom option, or just go all in an slap it or something similar on the Jessies.

    I considered buying a back up pair of BGs during the sale, or for just about a milisecond anyway, but I just see no need. ON3Ps ability to shrug of abuse is just rediculous. My BGs and C&Ds have seen heavy rotation this year, yet especially the BGs (with their matte top sheets) still look brand spanking new. The glossy C&Ds do have some scratches, but nothing much there either.

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    Woodsman 96 toured great today. Mt Stuart is a beautiful mountain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowen View Post
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    Woodsman 96 toured great today. Mt Stuart is a beautiful mountain.
    Yes, the mountain is beautiful, but that pink shirt is hotter than hell!

  13. #8638
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    I might be reading into this wrong... but it sounds like we might have two different widths of Billy Goats for next year Everyone who was looking for Steeples might be happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post

    As for short BGs, we can just barely justify keeping the 179cm, let alone reintroducing any shorter sizes. Sales of the other two sizes are like 10x. I'm really only keeping it around this year for the tour options in 108/116.

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    travel / casual tour ski

    184 wren 96 ti
    187 woodsman 96

    analysis paralysis

    someone make my decisions for me

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    Travel and tour where there’s deeper snow?

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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    naw, i have bigger skis for that. i want something that can ski hard snow a bit if thatís what lands. i had no float issues on 189 wren 108s so think i can error small a bit and still be pretty happy in good snow.

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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    At that width, Iíd say woodsman ti

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    Quote Originally Posted by shroom View Post
    travel / casual tour ski

    184 wren 96 ti
    187 woodsman 96

    analysis paralysis

    someone make my decisions for me
    Woodsman unless you like to ski balls to the wall at all times. They are the more causal choice.
    Uno mas

  19. #8644
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    More analysis paralysis:

    Jeffery 108 186cm vs Jeffery 191cm?
    I'm 6'2", 185lbs.

    Leaning towards the 186 as I absolutely love my 186 BG... But if the 191cm Jeffery is hella rockered, maybe it skis shorter? I'm in the kootenays so it's always deep and soft with tons of trees, tons of pillows, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeeom View Post
    More analysis paralysis:

    Jeffery 108 186cm vs Jeffery 191cm?
    I'm 6'2", 185lbs.

    Leaning towards the 186 as I absolutely love my 186 BG... But if the 191cm Jeffery is hella rockered, maybe it skis shorter? I'm in the kootenays so it's always deep and soft with tons of trees, tons of pillows, etc
    Iím more or less same height & weight. The 191 is great. Skis shorter than it looks, on piste, and wider than it looks, in powder. I would recommend mounting on the line, to keep the swing weight dialed and the turns quick. Iím in the Cascades, in Oregon, so basically the same kind of snowpack.

  21. #8646
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    Quote Originally Posted by beeeom View Post
    More analysis paralysis:

    Jeffery 108 186cm vs Jeffery 191cm?
    I'm 6'2", 185lbs.

    Leaning towards the 186 as I absolutely love my 186 BG... But if the 191cm Jeffery is hella rockered, maybe it skis shorter? I'm in the kootenays so it's always deep and soft with tons of trees, tons of pillows, etc
    Your height would suggest the 191, but your current ski choice screams 186, and either length will handle your weight just fine. I'd say that it comes down to where you find your balance point on your skis.

    The 186 Jeffrey 108 actually has more effective edge than a 184/186 BG, but since it's mounted further forward by ~3cm, they can ski short, particularly for those who have any inkling of a forward stance. For those of us who ski upright and/or grew up bombing around on park skis, they ski all of their length.

    I've skied the 191 Jeffrey 108 a few times, but I personally found it to be too long for me. Specifically, I found the additional length in the tails especially cumbersome in tight, steep terrain. Would you gain some top end stability with a longer ski? Absolutely. Is it worth the sacrifice in agility? Not to me, but again, I've always found the 186 to be perfectly stable in *most* situations because of my upright/often sideways stance preference.

    My inbounds quiver for the previous 10 season has been 186/184 BG (same/same), and 186 Jeffrey 108. This season it became 187 Woodsman 108/ 184 BG, because I wanted that little extra top end for variable run outs without sacrificing agility in the tight steeps. Even so, I still grab my Jeffries during low tide and soft spring conditions for their elevated fun factor (over Woodsman 108) in what I like to call "dick around terrain".

  22. #8647
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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    BGs, --- options in 108/116.
    mucho curioso

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    6' 220# here. The 191 K108 is my daily if it's not hard pack. The more neutral stance was a touch weird the first day on them then it just worked. At my weight, it does give up a little when the snow gets deep and it seems a touch forward on the line but I have BGs for those conditions.

    Like Al says, the tail seems a little long when it's tight but it's definitely manageable.

    What I've noticed is that my ski buddies tell me I'm carving the shit out of them harder than they've seen me do on other skis. It feels pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optics View Post
    mucho curioso
    A 108mm underfoot BG Tour that weighed around 1800g would have my money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    A 108mm underfoot BG Tour that weighed around 1800g would have my money
    Even without the tour variant, just a slimmed-down version of the beloved goat model would probably have legs (even if on some level it 'makes no sense'....I know people are daily-ing goats when half those days would be better on a narrower version). Wildcat>WC108 seems like it set a good precedent for that.

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