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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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03-15-2019, 10:11 PM #6426
RES Steeple 102 was one of my favorite skis to tour on. Punched way up more than its waist width as far as pow performance with that tip.
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03-15-2019, 10:40 PM #6427Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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03-15-2019, 11:04 PM #6429Registered User
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03-16-2019, 10:45 AM #6431Registered User
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I love my Steeple 102s. They crush it in almost everything.
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03-16-2019, 12:27 PM #6432
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03-18-2019, 09:03 AM #6433
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03-18-2019, 10:07 AM #6434
I've got a pair of kinda older 191BG tour layup .. which are 372g lighter than my same-model stock BG191.
Apply similar weight savings to the BG weights on iggy's site?
Depending on length, getting dang close to your 1800.
Seems do-able?
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03-18-2019, 10:16 AM #6435
BG's in 184 are 2.38 kg's.... so likely the touring layup would only take that down to 2000-2100 ish. Which isn't bad, but still on the heavy side for touring IMO.
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03-18-2019, 10:33 AM #6436
Yea, not quite there. I wonder if current technology could make the weight savings more drastic. like the semi cap you mention. Getting close enough .. that 1800 seems do-able.
My current tour sticks sport flat weight of 2.72 & 2.50 .. so I'm sure not the best guy to chime in anyway.
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03-18-2019, 10:41 AM #6437King potato
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Scott is there a patreon we can support for the whiskey this thread causes you to drink?
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03-18-2019, 11:56 AM #6438Registered User
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03-18-2019, 01:20 PM #6439
ON3P SKIS Discussion
For reference, my steeple 116 in a 184 weight 2210 g each. Love skiing it, meh about skinning with it.
Edit: ideal shift setup. At my weight (165) I’m generally fine to ski just about anything I can get to by hiking/skinning on that setup without missing my goats.
If I’m on lifts, the billy goat is still kingwait!!!! waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait...Wait!
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03-18-2019, 01:45 PM #6440Registered User
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Another data point for people looking for excuses to lug BGs and Steeples uphill. I put in a very long day on my 184 Steeple 108s yesterday. I sometimes wish they were a bit lighter on the way up for sure, but I also don't want to give up any of their current abilities on the down, so unless Scott and crew somehow defy physics I'm thinking boots and bindings might be a better place to dump some weight without impacting the magic sauce that is built into these skis. Yesterday's mission saw conditions ranging from steep, firm chalk in the alpine to isothermal schmoo near valley bottom. Steeples were predictable and confidence-inspiring in it all and ripped the pow/hot pow at mid elevations with authority. My buddy on lightweight skimo skis skied all the same stuff, but was obviously less confident and having less fun. It's hard to know if the reduction in effort/calories he burnt on the way up were worth it on the down.
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03-18-2019, 01:59 PM #6441Registered User
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03-18-2019, 02:00 PM #6442
The problem with lighter boots is they aren't going to do as good of a job driving those heavy ass skis you just hauled uphill, so not sure that compromise makes a lot of sense because it defeats the purpose somewhat. FWIW, I used to tour on regular Billy Goats, and then on skinny goats which were much better as the weight loss was very noticeable. I do kind of get why Scott decided to move away from a touring line in general - the Steeples were only halfway there in terms of weight savings so probably didn't make a ton of sense.
I do wonder what kind of a difference a semi cap construction and slightly thinner bases and edges could have... but then there's a lot of logistics in terms of material orders and volume needed. Would likely need to sell quite a few of them to be worth the hassle.
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03-18-2019, 02:02 PM #6443Registered User
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03-18-2019, 02:51 PM #6444
Semi Cap is negligible in weight savings. Just not enough material to make a substantial difference. It is core far and away #1, then base/edge. We're testing, but core's take time. If we get to a design that skis how we want, and puts us in the weight class we want, we'll release it. We don't need it from a capacity standpoint right now, though.
Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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03-18-2019, 04:56 PM #6445
Ski house rental ON3P lineup at Big Sky.
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03-18-2019, 08:58 PM #6446
This sounds in the ballpark.
Assuming no significant layup changes over the past few years, my 186cm, 2014 BG Tours (thanks again @lucknau) come in right around 2270 each.
That's an inbounds weight for me.
I'd still like a compromised pair that comes in around 1700 to 1800 for lugging uphill, but I know I'm dreaming.
Scott has enough on his plate, and deviatinng from bamboo would no doubt be a major prototyping effort for such a small market segment.
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03-18-2019, 09:31 PM #6447Registered User
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03-18-2019, 09:39 PM #6448
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