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  1. #3326
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    Some good info here, at 6'3" 200lbs and a preference for fast open terrain the supergoat sounds great, I hope they have some stiff garnets in the new run so I can spend money I don't have. My current resort skis are 191 movement goliaths so I can imagine these being harder in trees then that considering they have tail rocker. Thinking SGs + goliaths will be a solid quiver for everything that isn't hardpack.
    Might have to hit betelgese for a set of bindings, or might wait for spring sales as I haven't been getting out much this year.

  2. #3327
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    It's not really that big. The center'ish mount makes them ski shorter than they tape. That's also due to the RES. I skied the stiff flex, didn't feel they were crazy stiff. Granted the conditions I had that day were fucking awesome, over 20" of damn near blower.
    I'm not an overly big dude, pretty normal I think. 5'10" and 195lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal. Pretty strong though as I do hit the weights hard when not skiing and in the off season.
    There is a whole thread on them where I put a full review. As stated, if you have to ask....
    I would have bought a pair even though I hate paying full retail for skis but then I got an amazing deal on a new set of 191 goats.
    You are welcome...! Hope you enjoyed them...

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  3. #3328
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    Which Wren begat the SuperGoat tail?

    I want that Wren.

  4. #3329
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    W88 tail, K108 underfoot, C@D tip.




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  5. #3330
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Anyone need some bindings? I got a bunch, new and used. STH2 16s, Pivot 14 WTR, Attack 13s.

    PM me.

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    PM sent, looking for Pivots with 115 brakes

  6. #3331
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Was it bumped out?? I haven’t skied the SG’s on a low traffic powder day yet, so I think the deep bumps have something to do with it. I took them into the trees at Alpine Meadows, and they weren’t difficult at all, but those trees arent that tight..

    I want to ski the stiffy flex and compare it to my Aeverflex. Aeverflex is a comp ski, no doubt about it. I like it like that though, I wanted a replacement for 196 Governors for rage-days, one that was more surfy. Aeverflex rages harder than 196 Govs, and also is more surfy.




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    It was smooth in places with soft bumps in others that the SG would destroy. Now firm bigger bumps and I could see them being a handful. I would think the stock flex, for me, would be better in bumps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Undertow View Post
    You are welcome...! Hope you enjoyed them...

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    That was the SG. Just mounted the 191's I received from you. Not sure when I can get on them. It's killing me. Esp with snowmageddon coming.

  7. #3332
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    It was smooth in places with soft bumps in others that the SG would destroy. Now firm bigger bumps and I could see them being a handful. I would think the stock flex, for me, would be better in bumps.

    That was the SG. Just mounted the 191's I received from you. Not sure when I can get on them. It's killing me. Esp with snowmageddon coming.
    ski in an arm brace?

  8. #3333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    ski in an arm brace?
    That won't help.

  9. #3334
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    ski in an arm brace?
    Ski slowly?

  10. #3335
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    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    Ski slowly?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA! I tried that once, didn't care for it.

  11. #3336
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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    K108 sidecut & flex. Just flat camber basically.



    Jeffrey 110 had camber - but longer radius than the K108.



    He is at the point where he is skiing pretty damn good snow most of the time, so the flat camber really works well for him.



    My guess based upon the description is that it was a pair of 193cm Cease & Desist we did with a Boston skyline topsheet - traded them for a custom ON3P x Mystery Ranch avy bag. That sound right?
    That’s probably it. Is there any way for me to buy a pair ? Those skis were


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  12. #3337
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Which Wren begat the SuperGoat tail?

    I want that Wren.
    2x stiff SGs are stiffer than, but not as locked in as my 191 wrens. The more I ski the 2x stiff, the more I notice the flex. They are beefy, especially through the tail. The tips still have just enough flex to work very well in powder though. Wrens feel like they have a traditional 35m radius. The wren 191s just want to ski straight, whenever, and wherever. I believe the supergoats have significantly more rocker though, I’ll check when I get home. SG feels more like a pow ski, Wren feels like a wide all mtn ski. Both are uber burly, just in different ways, and both demand more attention than my 191 Monsters. Monsters are stiffer and heavier, but feel like a 24m sidecut.

    My Wrens were custom pressed from like 2015 or 2016. They are 114mm underfoot. I dont really know much other than that. I was thinking of selling them, but then I saw the light. Skis like that are going extinct, and I would regret it. Very fun when you wanna go fast in any conditions, save for super deep bumps. The supergoat can hang, but it’s easier to pivot and feels like it is a tighter radius on edge.

    The biggest thing I notice from this new shape of the BG, is it finally has the ability to carve when needed. It’s nothing to “write home to ma” about, but it’s noticeably better than other RES designs I have tried. It’s pretty fun on a soft groomer.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    It was smooth in places with soft bumps in others that the SG would destroy. Now firm bigger bumps and I could see them being a handful. I would think the stock flex, for me, would be better in bumps.
    Stock flex SG’s would definitely be better in large bumps. Regular BG’s are better in bumps, by a large margin. That’s where I notice the largest difference in performance between the two. Standard ones are actually fun in deep choppy bumps, one of the best of the wide powder skis. For smaller bumps, with no trenches between them, they both absolute crush those things..like a bat out of hell.



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  13. #3338
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    SG is more of a “quiver” ski, for those big days when the entire city didnt come to the mountain to bump everything up.
    So basically... They're never for skiing?

  14. #3339
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    yellow

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebrucemac View Post
    yellow
    Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    Red

  17. #3342
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    ON3P siting at the Olympics. Women’s freestyle quals.

  18. #3343
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    So close... Green bases were the best to watch spin.

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    Just ON3Ps at the Olympics 🎿

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  21. #3346
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    I feel like I could have totally used some Billygoats today. It was deep, heavy, chopped to shit, and kicking my ass on 184 Bibbys. Would have been a good 189 BG day.

  22. #3347
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    so, the quiver transformation is now almost complete - I just need to get the wren88s back and mount a black/tecton combo on them. I had some spare vipecs in the parts bin, so decided to go with those - that is black front and use the tecton heels off my bmt122s as vipec heels are sufficient for soft snow use - instead of buying a new pair of p14s.
    I ended up going with k98 in 176 due to availibility, intended use (summer glacier skiing and learning to spin/jib/butter/ride switch) over the 181s that would the more natural choice perhaps. Can't wait to try em out. Happy days - lots of snow and new ski stoke
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    Also thought i had a ski vacation coming up next week, but apparantly that was in three weeks-> a time i cannot go anymore due to other obligations. Oh well.

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