ON3P SKIS Discussion

[Name Redacted]

I know TGR might make it seem like we are selling lots of CDs, but it's about the same as always. We build em one, maybe two days per year. No plans right now for a wider Woodsman or Jeffrey. Maybe someday, but the demand for a wider ski (aka people asking) is very small and at this point - production prioritizes volume or customs. Custom pricing is standardize this year - and includes the topsheet swap.



To me, BG vs CD decision comes down to time in variable snow. The CD and BG Tour are similar in that rounder, more even flex pattern. Floats better, but doesn't have the same punch as the stock BG. If you are skiing somewhere that you need power through variable, the stock ski is just more powerful and stable. If you can generally stay in the trees or more consistent snow, then the CD is a lot of fun.

So there be tour layups of the BG or the C&D available next season or is that a custom job? Apologies if this was already covered. Steeple? Just not seeing any on the site.

[tuco]

So there be tour layups of the BG or the C&D available next season or is that a custom job? Apologies if this was already covered. Steeple? Just not seeing any on the site.

C&D comes w/ tour layup stock

[tuco]

I know TGR might make it seem like we are selling lots of CDs, but it's about the same as always. We build em one, maybe two days per year. No plans right now for a wider Woodsman or Jeffrey. Maybe someday, but the demand for a wider ski (aka people asking) is very small and at this point - production prioritizes volume or customs. Custom pricing is standardize this year - and includes the topsheet swap.

Damn! Well someone's gotta be 1st to ask.
Guess I'll just keep whoarding Boneshakers.

[iggyskier]

So there be tour layups of the BG or the C&D available next season or is that a custom job? Apologies if this was already covered. Steeple? Just not seeing any on the site.

Custom only on BG. As Tuco noted - CD is tour layup on the stock ski.

[Bandit Man]

To me, BG vs CD decision comes down to time in variable snow. The CD and BG Tour are similar in that rounder, more even flex pattern. Floats better, but doesn't have the same punch as the stock BG. If you are skiing somewhere that you need power through variable, the stock ski is just more powerful and stable. If you can generally stay in the trees or more consistent snow, then the CD is a lot of fun.

I love that description and comparison. I agree with it wholeheartedly. If you get a lot of deep snow, the two skis can complement one another, especially is you get dry deep days as well as variable deep days. I could see the C&D being a favorite in places where you get deep and dry as the norm, where the rounder flex and better float are nothing but a benefit.

[detrusor]

I have a hard believing anything would better in deep untracked or cut up funk than my SG’s in the 1 flex.


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[tuco]

I have a hard believing anything would better in deep untracked or cut up funk than my SG’s in the 1 flex.


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1 size up(126)Woodsman would
Beleeeeedat

[MiddleOfNight]

I have a hard believing anything would better in deep untracked or cut up funk than my SG’s in the 1 flex.
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respectfully, as for 'deep untracked' .. think pillow fight!!!



However I agree whole-heartedly with the 'cut-up funk' part. super goats rage here.

Ordered 2020 C/D 189's ... quiver of 3: pillow fights, super goats, and cease and desists.

what a time to be alive

[iggyskier]

So you guys get first crack before we post em publicly, we just put a bunch of in-stock customs in the store if anyone wants a custom at with sale discount, but without the wait.
https://shop.on3pskis.com/collection...k-ship-customs

A Woodsman 126 would certainly be quite the ski. Would take a good bit of interest to get there, though.

[noturnsnecessary]

Sorry to double post, but another question regarding sizing. I'm also 5'6 150, consider myself relatively advanced, and mostly ski Tahoe with the occasional trip to Whistler or Utah. Currently have the 108 Wrens in 179 (19oz fiberglass) and 96 Kartels in 176 (stock).

(Got the Kartels 2nd as a 50/50 park/spring ski as I've recently been getting more into park and generally a more playful skiing style. I really love how the Wrens can charge through anything but at times—eg trees, spinning off features, at the end of a day—they can feel like a lot of ski for me.)

So I'm trying to decide if I should get the Woodsman in 177 stock or in 182 with the softer fiberglass. The Kartels in 176 feel perfect in spring conditions, but I've def hit the speed limit outside the park before. Would be using Woodsman as a playful daily driver.

Thoughts?

Any input here? Leaning toward 177

[iggyskier]

Any input here? Leaning toward 177

Yep I would lean stock 177cm as well. Quite a bit more stable than 176cm Kartel 96, but won't require you to be going down the fall line as much as the Wren 108.

[PNW-skier78]

So you guys get first crack before we post em publicly, we just put a bunch of in-stock customs in the store if anyone wants a custom at with sale discount, but without the wait.
https://shop.on3pskis.com/collection...k-ship-customs

A Woodsman 126 would certainly be quite the ski. Would take a good bit of interest to get there, though.

I was looking at the black wren custom and noticed on the site it said it is the stiffest ski you make. Is it stiffer both longitudinally and torsionally stiffer than the 108 ti?


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[LeSki Inside Man]

Iggy, any word on when the stock woodsman will be done?

[VON]

Custom only on BG. As Tuco noted - CD is tour layup on the stock ski.

What I don't understand is why the SuperGoat is 1.5x stiffer that the normal BillyGoat? I ride the 189 Goats and while I don't think I need any extra stiffness, I would have loved the extra length on the SG for those powder days.

I was just worried that 1.5x stiff might actually reduce the SG's float relative to the 189 BG, so I went BG.

[jackattack]

What I don't understand is why the SuperGoat is 1.5x stiffer that the normal BillyGoat? I ride the 189 Goats and while I don't think I need any extra stiffness, I would have loved the extra length on the SG for those powder days.

I was just worried that 1.5x stiff might actually reduce the SG's float relative to the 189 BG, so I went BG.

You can get the stock goat flex in the supergoat. Many guys have that ski.

[undertow2]

You can get the stock goat flex in the supergoat. Many guys have that ski.

That would be me... 6'4" and 205 lbs and went SG in std flex... I own and owned 191 BG and the newer Goats are stiffer than the OG 191... There were no issues in the std flex for any of my Goats including the SG when it came to crud and have zero complaints on POW... Float is the shit...!

Attached pic is my 193 SGs in std flex along with my beloved 189 108 Wrens... I wont lie as the only ski I am ordering for next season is 192 116 Woodsman...

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[PowTron]

The man gets injured. 5 seconds later you snag his skis. Ski the damn things. Fuck a custom top sheet they’re skis.

SMH over here lol

[N1CK.]

SMH over here lol

Hey dude. Have you started PT?
How's it feeling so far?

[Bandit Man]

What I don't understand is why the SuperGoat is 1.5x stiffer that the normal BillyGoat? I ride the 189 Goats and while I don't think I need any extra stiffness, I would have loved the extra length on the SG for those powder days.

I was just worried that 1.5x stiff might actually reduce the SG's float relative to the 189 BG, so I went BG.

Without the extra carbon, they are virtually the same ski, IMO. Oh course, I didn’t figure that out until I had bought a standard flex SG and then bought a 189 BG later that same year thinking/hoping it would feel like a little less ski than the standard layup SG. Nope. Hard for this guy to tell the difference. So I decided to man up and learn to ski the SG better. Now that we are better acquainted, the SG is my go to for PNW variable pow/deep days. Plus, I went with the America topsheets and they just look amazing.

I’m keeping the 189 BG for junior since he is growing like a weed.

[tuco]

Without the extra carbon, they are virtually the same ski, IMO. Oh course, I didn’t figure that out until I had bought a standard flex SG and then bought a 189 BG later that same year thinking/hoping it would feel like a little less ski than the standard layup SG. Nope. Hard for this guy to tell the difference. So I decided to man up and learn to ski the SG better. Now that we are better acquainted, the SG is my go to for PNW variable pow/deep days. Plus, I went with the America topsheets and they just look amazing.

I’m keeping the 189 BG for junior since he is growing like a weed.

Coulda sworn SG had a thicker core profile too.
Iggy?
Mine seem thicker in the middle than my other On3P's. Don't have BG's yet though.. And mine are 2x

[Bandit Man]

Coulda sworn SG had a thicker core profile too.
Iggy?
Mine seem thicker in the middle than my other On3P's. Don't have BG's yet though.. And mine are 2x

I’ll get the calipers out later and check overall thickness. Not completely scientific but I am curious to see the outcome.

Also, probably more accurate to say they “feel” or “ski” virtually the same...at least to me.

[jackattack]

Coulda sworn SG had a thicker core profile too.
Iggy?
Mine seem thicker in the middle than my other On3P's. Don't have BG's yet though.. And mine are 2x

The SG's are noticeably thicker than my other ON3P's as well. I'm riding 1.5x.

A lot of additional info in the original PSA https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...3P-Limited-Run

[detrusor]

My SG’s in the 1 flex are much thicker than the wife’s BG’s. Of course there is a length difference.


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[PowTron]

Hey dude. Have you started PT?
How's it feeling so far?

Its day 6 since surgery and already losing my mind. BUT I’m off of crutches and lifting today and then start official PT tomorrow

Feels like I had my hamstring ripped out and then screwed into my tibia and femur...which is what they did.

Haha

[iriponsnow]

Its day 6 since surgery and already losing my mind. BUT I’m off of crutches and lifting today and then start official PT tomorrow

Feels like I had my hamstring ripped out and then screwed into my tibia and femur...which is what they did.

Haha

Work the extension & the harvest site! Best.

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