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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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02-17-2019, 11:34 PM #6176
The whole breaking your boots in a forward fall is questionable. I haven’t had a knee fall in a long time but it could happen even to me.
But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer
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02-17-2019, 11:36 PM #6177
discussion drift = tecton thread needs your educated opinions
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02-17-2019, 11:39 PM #6178
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02-18-2019, 09:06 AM #6179
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02-18-2019, 09:26 AM #6180
Lol, Marker said the same thing.
Here is a link from Wildsnow saying the new toe will make damaging the boot less likely but it doesn’t say that it completely fixes the problem. Every touring binding has its quirks and a possibly damaged boot is much better than broken pins.
https://www.wildsnow.com/25582/frits...e-change-2018/
Getting back on topic, I have been seeing quite a few ON3P in the backcountry lately.
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02-18-2019, 09:33 AM #6181Registered User
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02-18-2019, 10:52 AM #6182Registered User
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Anyone know the length offerings of the new woodsman? Iggy let the cat out of the bag on 192 but wondering what the other offerings are going to be.
Go Sox!
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02-18-2019, 11:00 AM #6183
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02-18-2019, 11:17 AM #6184Registered User
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Wondering if there is a 187 in the mix as well.
Go Sox!
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02-18-2019, 11:48 AM #6185
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02-18-2019, 01:26 PM #6186tinkerer
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02-18-2019, 01:26 PM #6187Registered User
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02-18-2019, 01:33 PM #6188
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02-18-2019, 01:52 PM #6189
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02-18-2019, 01:55 PM #6190
It's in the 19/20 gear thread...
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02-18-2019, 02:06 PM #6191
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02-18-2019, 02:59 PM #6192
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02-18-2019, 05:00 PM #6193
While I recently complained about a tune, I want it to be clear: I think ON3P is a great company, think it's awesome that Iggy takes the time to interface with us weirdos, and that I am a shitty skier.
Also I love the Billygoat, Wren 113, C&D and Kartel 108.
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02-18-2019, 05:30 PM #6194
I’m confused about people’s troubles with the wren 108 here and in the “skis you hated” thread. For both me and a friend the 184s were perfect out of the wrapper. Can charge hard but shut down on a dime. Likes fast, big turns but is perfectly serviceable in terrain requiring slower/tighter turns. Doesn’t accelerate like crazy when you’re knocked on the tails. Definitely not hooky.
Neither of us are incredible skiers but like to ski hard and these are pretty ideal for that. My friend used to ski 185 cochises and much prefers the wrens, saying they have most of the top end of the Cochise but are way easier to shut down and is way more confident on them. It’s weird to hear such different takes.
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02-18-2019, 06:09 PM #6195King potato
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I have skied almost every 108 “charger” out there and the W108 can hang with the best of them. It charges while letting you scrub speed whenever you want to. While they aren’t a race ski on ice they ski fresh better than every other 108mm waisted ski. It’s a trade off.
Sucks some people have had tune issues, but if your tune is fine you and can’t get the tail to release you need to get out of the back seat.
LVS I hope you get to try out another pair with a better tune! I bet you’d dig them.
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02-18-2019, 06:16 PM #6196King potato
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Re-posting this because everything Powtron said is true. The 114 is the best version of the fat wren yet. It feels so much more dialed in a turn than the old versions and is way better in fresh. It handles hard snow better than the BG(I’m on the 16/17 pre asym) and I think it would be great for places with lighter snow density.
Very sad they are going to custom only, I think a lot of you who ski lighter snow would love it over the BG.
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02-18-2019, 06:17 PM #6197
I've owned/skied a lot of sticks in this category - Movement Goliath, LP105, Big Dump (not 10*x but whatever), Movement Trust (Daily Driver for 2 years), Wren 113, Cham 107, Cham 107 HM, some Head that was 110mm with the Motorhead Graphics, and a bunch of other skis like that. I've never had issues with a stiff, flat tail or a burly layup.
I really want to get on a pair with a better tune. I think this could be a great ski for me, on paper at least. I really want to give it another shot.
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02-18-2019, 06:42 PM #6198
So, I had the previous iteration of the Wren 108 and it didn’t jive with me. I know it was softer. It felt fun in deep snow but was just okay in variable and terrible on firm snow. Really didn’t live up to the legacy of the Wren line. I hear the new model might swing to the other end of the spectrum now.
I love what Scott has produced with the BG and some of the other skis and he has to make a living.
I also think that sharing honest insights is tough for this community to do. LVS is a heckuva skier, so don’t be so quick to blame the skier.In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...
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02-18-2019, 07:47 PM #6199
I am still somewhat flabbergasted there is a whole underworld coming to light of peeps who didn't get along with wren 108s and even stating a BG is better for them on firm snow.
These issues have to be related to tune as I've never had the W108 feel hooky, unstable, wandering, etc. Just visioning people vigorously gummy stoning their skis in a last ditch effort before sending them off to gear swap.
For my pair at least - just get on it and drive fast. When I ski I like to make a defined carve for every turn I can. carve carve air carve repeat. If I skid a turn I feel as I've let myself and the mountain down and the W108 does a nice job of this
To me the wren is much better than the old 113 wren on everything but going straight down the mountain. I liked the old wren, but you really needed to go full blast at all times. The wren 108 carves much better, is easier manipulated into various defined carved turn shapes by rolling the ski over and using pressure, releases easier into slarves when wanted/needed, handles pow much better than the old with quite a bit more rocker on both ends and flex in very front of ski. That said it still likes speed to operate best, but I get along fine with it in trees.
BG with its smaller effective edge is better in trees obviously. BG is better in pow and tight trees and low angle skiing, but to me the Wren is more versatile and stable and to reiterate the hard snow differences, I would wager I would be at least 10-15 seconds faster down a GS/SG course on Wrens than if I switched to my BGs, but yeah the W108 even is not at the top end of the 108 wasted genre in very firm groomer blasters, but for me, I go down to a bonafide or brahma type ski for thatLast edited by klauss; 02-18-2019 at 08:11 PM.
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02-18-2019, 08:10 PM #6200
Why didn't you come to Alpental and school us all?
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