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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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12-03-2021, 05:46 PM #11876
I realize all that, I dont like light skis. 2300 grams is considered heavy in my book, and right in line with the Bibby and Chipotle Bananas in similar length. I could complain, and demand them to build me heavier skis at the stated weight of 2430 grams, but i dont see it being worth the hassle. Unless they accidentally built these with the 50/50 core, which I would see highly unlikely them to fuck up, and if that happened they would weigh closer to 2200 grams.
I'd be curious of the weight of others that have gotten this years 192 Billy Goats
Anyways, if I really want to ski heavy skis on a powder day, Ill take out my 196 Pillow Fights which are 2700 grams. FUCK YEAH
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12-03-2021, 06:17 PM #11877
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12-03-2021, 08:55 PM #11878
I'm thiiis close to grabbing a pair of BG 110s. Suppose I should wait to see if it actually snows here this winter.
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12-03-2021, 10:02 PM #11879Registered User
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12-03-2021, 10:04 PM #11880Registered User
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12-04-2021, 07:04 AM #11881
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12-04-2021, 08:10 AM #11882Registered User
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My BG118 182s weigh in at the very respectable 2252 and 2282, while my standard layup BG110s in 182 are 2060 and 2073. WD110s hold the middle ground at 2131 and 2138. I am very happy with those weights. All are to be mounted with Castified Pivots and will be used with Lange RX130s or XT3 130s, so not exactly optimized for light weight setups.
Hm, that sounds like standard Wren108s. Is it a custom softer pair or do they have different top sheets or what? Where does the tour part come in (other than what you intend to use them for (for which they should be awesome I might add))?
Oh my - nice!
Thanks for spreading the stoke by sharing your new setups!Last edited by kid-kapow; 12-04-2021 at 09:23 AM.
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12-04-2021, 03:27 PM #11883Registered User
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Wasn’t sure what route I wanted to go with these and there’s a little overlap in my quiver with my SGs seeing most days. Decided it would be best to throw some demo clamps on em so I can share the 191 BG love. If anyone is in the Spokane/North Idaho area and wants a some time with these, PM me.
I expect to convert at least two of my buddies to ON3P fangirls before the end of the season.
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12-04-2021, 06:41 PM #11884Registered User
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12-05-2021, 07:03 AM #11885Registered User
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source
source: talking about the changes to wood from year 1 to year 2
I went back in the thread last night to look for some pictures of a few custom skis I remember being posted roughly a year ago (BGtours), and I figured I should quote these posts by Iggy due to them being mentioned a few pages back when I scrolled past them.
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12-05-2021, 10:33 AM #11886Registered User
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Quick binding question on the Wren 102ti. Trialed a P15 95mm brake on them and it seems too narrow, rubs agains the sides and edge at the mount point. Have an STH2 100mm that seem to fit fine and will go with that one but curious how others have managed the pivot bindings on the narrower Wrens without having to bend them?
Thanks, as always, for your insights. Happy holidays and stay healthy.Originally Posted by jm2e:
To be a JONG is no curse in these unfortunate times. 'Tis better that than to be alone.
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12-05-2021, 12:53 PM #11887Registered User
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I've run 95s on wren96s and wood108s, the former having tons of clearance, the latter needing a bit of bending - though both works great. Edit: used the bent pair on a pair of Mantra102s and MFree108s too - worked great there too, zero problems or perceived drag.
I would imagine that some slight trimming of the inside edge of the plasticy bit and/or a tiny bit of bending should make them fit really well. The brake mechanism is pretty strong on Pivots so should work fine across alot of conditions-Last edited by kid-kapow; 12-05-2021 at 01:41 PM.
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12-05-2021, 06:49 PM #11888
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12-05-2021, 08:35 PM #11889Registered User
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I bought these: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...189-tour-layup
2250 on the scale....hmmmm
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12-05-2021, 09:04 PM #11890
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12-05-2021, 09:50 PM #11891Registered User
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12-05-2021, 09:56 PM #11892Registered User
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Beautiful skis. I ride pre-ti wrenegade 96s with outlaws and while I love them to death in any kind of natural snow, I find them pretty uninspiring on groomers, especially icy ones. I thought it was the tune but I got a fresh tune to start this season and they still feel like snowlerblades as soon as it gets slick. Usually my skiing involves avoiding groomers as much as possible so it is less of an issue, but in the early season it has been a drag. Maybe a more aggressive edge bevel than the stock 1/1 would be better.
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12-06-2021, 02:54 AM #11893Registered User
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Ah, nice. But to be real, 100gr is not going to make a huge difference on the up. Whereas a slighty softer flexing if near stock weight wren108 is going to be a very, very good backcountry ski on the down. Slightly more nimble than the stiffer stock flex - so better in tight spaces - and they should float even better than the already decidedly floaty stock 108. The Wren skape is a hoot in the backcountry - phenomenal ski at speed in all types of soft snow and solid on hard patches
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12-06-2021, 07:53 AM #11894
I haven’t found anything that works well on hardback. It is just a struggle to stay light on your edges while making a telemark turn. At least true to my style. In general I find the Wrens great on groomers, just not ice. I am not always perfectly on edge tho so I can skid around through crappy conditions as necessary. I find them to be great in anything remotely soft/edgeable. I’ve yet to build the same bond w (first gen) Woodsman 96 but love them too just something about the Wren.
Uno mas
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12-06-2021, 08:57 AM #11895
You're correct. 18/19 would be the old tour layup - full bamboo core, thinner profile, more carbon than standard, normal (thick) bases and edges. Much different than the current tour layup which started in 20/21 and is much lighter.
I changed my Wren 112s to a 1deg base/2deg edge bevel and it did give them a touch more maximum grip on firm snow. All of ON3P's skis, even the narrower ones, are biased a bit more towards soft snow in the rocker design and such but trying a more aggressive bevel might help you out.
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12-06-2021, 09:06 AM #11896Registered User
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Nature of the beast. I ski out East and there are better skis for true hardpack/icy conditions than ON3P, but the second the snow gets at all softer or if you reach a run with even a bit of manmade snow there's something so inspiring about the bamboo core that is both damp and poppy at the same time. The same thing that makes them really good on the Pacific snowpack also makes them really good on manky, manmade snow. It makes it worth it for me. I take out my Mantras on a truly icy day where you won't find anything soft and will be staying on piste.
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To be a JONG is no curse in these unfortunate times. 'Tis better that than to be alone.
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12-06-2021, 09:57 AM #11897Registered User
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Interested in on3p as I ski the PNW, but the new woodsman line is maybe a bit directional (?) and the Jeffrey too progressive.
I want a do it all daily ski that I can spin, ski switch and mess about on but also drive the shovels when charging, and just generally get forward a bit.
Is this a mount the Jeffrey back situation, or woodsman forward perhaps?
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12-06-2021, 12:18 PM #11898Registered User
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Woodman on the line assuming skiing switch is casual and not landing in switch in soft conditions.
I have Wrenegades and can carve them switch no issues at all… I just wouldn’t want to land backwards in powder. The woodsman feels pretty playful (I have not been on the new one but I doubt it’s a massive departure).
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12-06-2021, 06:04 PM #11899Registered User
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12-06-2021, 07:36 PM #11900
2019 ON3P Jeffrey 96 Ski
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/s...417459919.html
Shorties, but a solid deal (not my listing)
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