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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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03-09-2020, 02:40 PM #8401
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03-09-2020, 03:19 PM #8402Registered User
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I heard 19/20 on3p skis have an updated topsheet from previous years that is more durable. Can someone confirm?
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03-09-2020, 03:22 PM #8403King potato
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Yes it is textured this year, but it has been super durable for 5+ years anyway
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03-09-2020, 03:33 PM #8404
My 12/13 Billy Goats have minimal topsheet damage or chipping. Yes they are using a new textured material and have revised the beveling process to reduce chipping over the years, but there's definitely no reason to avoid older skis due to these changes.
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03-09-2020, 04:18 PM #8405
Yeah my 18/19 BGs are pre-tectured top sheet but very nicely beveled and have been quite resistant to damage. Much tougher compared to say my Moments from 12/13.
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03-09-2020, 04:43 PM #8406Registered User
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Okay, thanks for confirming. I was surprised to hear that they're going to a more durable topsheet because I don't think I've ever heard on3p and not durable used in the same sentence ha.
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03-09-2020, 04:56 PM #8407
The biggest advantage might be the better snow shedding on for the textured version.
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03-09-2020, 05:38 PM #8408Registered User
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Sorry, I went with the back from effective edge center. Actual number is -7.85 on the Masterblaster. Fixed it.
I am a more traditional directional skier, with skis that mount as such. Thus would a -7.5 mount on the Woodsman fit my style more. I understand that the ski was designed for a, I believe, -6.35 mount.
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03-09-2020, 07:33 PM #8409Registered User
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03-09-2020, 10:41 PM #8410
I have both. Woods in a 192 and BG in a 189. Woods mount a bit more forward, tail is less releasable than the BG on the firm. Both rage the soft but the BG reins supreme with soft snow versatility and friendliness. The pintail is super friendly and lends itself well to slight adjustments in weight distribution to alter the turn shape. The Woods at speed in a long radius turn are locomotives. They are so great with rad suspension at speed. There is so much to love about each. You should have both imo. I love clicking into each one and knowing the day is gonna be fast and fun. There is nothing not to love about either one, both rip. Woods tips a bit more to the groomed but I’ve had incredible days arcing my BG’s there too. Good luck. Either decision will have you grinning.
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03-09-2020, 10:58 PM #8411
I was thinking the same on my Woodsmans for the same reason you are. Directional skier background but on the line is where they should be. You will feel a bit forward initially or at least I did but I’m happy I went on the rec. detuned the tips as they felt hooky and this helped immensely. the ski is designed to be versatile and on the rec gives u this. Tail more friendly, a big sweet spot fore and aft on stance and pressure for varied turns. I love my 116’s. Each day they show me more capability. Mount on the line.......
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03-10-2020, 09:04 AM #8412Registered User
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03-10-2020, 04:03 PM #8413
I have both older tops and the new vinyl textured tops. The new ones are more durable to superficial scratches. I don’t think it matters much but the new ones seem more duro FWIW. More of a rounded edge on the vinyl at tips and tails. After putting a handful of days on my new ones this year the only wear shown is at the tips inside edge. I’d imagine ON3P could speak to this directly. Not sure but I think customs are still the trad construction but I don’t have customs from 19/20, only stock. I do like the textured feel in hand tho.
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03-10-2020, 04:31 PM #8414
Customs have the textured topsheet.
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03-10-2020, 05:00 PM #8415
The 2 yr search is over. Fitting in nicely between the bg and 102's. Chances are the new touring model will drop tomorrow now
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03-10-2020, 07:04 PM #8416Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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03-10-2020, 07:30 PM #8417
Scared to weigh mine. Ill ski them first then it just wont matter
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03-11-2020, 02:10 AM #8418Registered User
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The main benefits of the new topsheet are that they hide scratches more effectively than the old glossy one, and that it adds more depth and sparkliness to the graphics (imho). If memory serves me right Iggy stated a while back that it is a thinner one-piece material too, as opposed to the previous glossy one that was two piece (white backing with graphics on the top layer I believe). I also think the textured one is ever so slightly ligther, and it is more expensive for ON3P to use. I think one of the reasons they made the switch was that the glossy topsheet was hard to source at times - aka why they made Kartel108s with the textured topsheets a few years ago. Please correct me if I am mistaken Iggy.
More durable - no, not as such. It just wears differently. As mentioned - ON3P and durability goes hand in hand, regardless of what topsheet material that is used.
That being said - I absolutely love the textured topsheets. I think it is the best/prettiest/most awesome topsheet material I have come across. It just makes ON3P's already stellar graphics pop that much harder. Yes, I prefer it to veneer as well - sacrilege I know
Sweet sticks Grinch!
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03-12-2020, 08:48 PM #8419
2017 Billygoat (pre-asymetrical), anyone mount behind the line a bit? It looks pretty far forward, and I prefer traditional mounts (often mounting behind lines).
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03-12-2020, 09:08 PM #8420King potato
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Nr 1 rule of the BG club is mount on the line.
Nr 2 rule of BG club is mount on the line.
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03-12-2020, 09:16 PM #8421
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03-12-2020, 09:38 PM #8422
^ lol, Whyturn says on the line too, but then he mounts everything on the line.
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03-12-2020, 09:42 PM #8423Registered User
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I have a pair of 184s mounted about 1.5-2cm behind the line do to hole conflict. I typically ride skis with more progressive mounts and often mount ahead of recommended but these ski, float, slarve excellently. They do have a tendency to wheelie out a bit when landing just behind centre in deeper snow though. I wouldn't recommend mounting behind the line persay but they do work there.
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03-12-2020, 10:02 PM #8424
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03-12-2020, 10:06 PM #8425
^ Got it guys, as close to the line as possible given hole conflicts.
Edit: The topsheet line doesn't quite line up with the mark on the sidewall, assume the sidewall mark is more accurate?Last edited by 1000-oaks; 03-13-2020 at 12:06 AM.
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