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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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10-07-2021, 10:42 AM #11576
I thought those looked familiar. I'm pretty sure the 184 Wren ti's were in CallMeAl's demo fleet at the BBI at Alpy in '19. If so, I've skied both pairs -- I preferred the 189's.
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10-07-2021, 10:42 AM #11577Watch out for sticks.
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10-07-2021, 11:18 AM #11578
check these bishes out
So in comparing to my ol' 12/13 191s, these new 192s are VERY similar. The stated sidecut dimensions are the same, 145/118/128. Looking down both skis when clamped together, I cannot detect a difference in the sidecut profile when the mount markings are aligned. Is there a short straight section underfoot on the new skis? If it's there it's subtle. It seemed obvious on prior models.
To compare the two, I'll start at the tails and work up. The following five shots show the 191 and 192 clamped together with mount marks lined up.
Rocker length looks pretty much the same but tail splay is a couple centimeters less on the 192.
Tail splay:
Mount point is back a smidge on the 192, making the 191 tail just a bit longer. Notice the edge wrap length difference, too.
Tip rocker and splay look pretty much the same, with a little bit more material at the very tip on the 192:
And here's the length difference when stood on the floor:
Flex feels pretty damn similar throughout, maybe a touch more pop from the new ones, as expected versus a set with hundreds of days (but the 191s def ain't dead, they feel great still actually). Core thickness appear to be the same. Something I keep thinking about is how fuckin great the 191 was and still is, with the new bitchin sauce basically back to its measurements. And how damn durable the skis are. Top shelf builds. Great work Scott & crew. Cheers, all.
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10-07-2021, 11:26 AM #11579
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10-07-2021, 11:41 AM #11580Registered User
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well, sheiat - those throwback tips do look nice. Dammit, too many awesome graphics.
thanks for the lowdown - like I needed to get more hyped on the new 118s...
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10-07-2021, 11:45 AM #11581Registered User
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10-07-2021, 12:01 PM #11582
It's millimeters, man. Mount forward or just get the Woodsman.
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10-07-2021, 12:03 PM #11583Registered User
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10-07-2021, 12:09 PM #11584
And the mount position isn't different on the sidecut. There's just a little more tip and a little less tail vs the old 191. All eyeballed, mind ya
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10-07-2021, 12:12 PM #11585Registered User
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hah, so buy the next size up and trim the tips a bit - problem solved and win-win (outside the warrenty going to shit of course unless you ask Iggy if they can do it as one-off custom ski).
They'll have plenty of tips regardless.
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10-07-2021, 05:12 PM #11586Registered User
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Those look super sexy, Norse. Love to hear that it seems like a return to the 191 (my favorite pow ski ever). Looks like I need to finally make a decision on graphic...
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10-07-2021, 05:30 PM #11587Registered User
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Ya that's what I do. +1.5 seems to be the sweet spot on my 186’s. Which I use for anything and everything at the resort.
I've got my 189’s at +1 but they are 95% touring dedicated. Would be curious to try +2 on them.
Was looking to replace my 186's with the new 187’s... Would be tempted to go +2 on them too. But alas I am broke and they are not in the cards until the 186’s actually die
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10-07-2021, 05:31 PM #11588Registered User
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I have Wren 114’s as my daily resort ski and a couple powder skis with touring bindings. Logically know I should do a narrow ski to compliment the Wren… but dang if the Billy Goats don’t look incredible.
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10-07-2021, 06:22 PM #11589
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10-08-2021, 08:12 PM #11590
Full topsheet porn Norse, I need to see that graphic
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10-10-2021, 08:51 PM #11591
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10-11-2021, 05:58 AM #11592
Anyone got a link to Iggy's post on the new BG specs?
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10-11-2021, 06:26 AM #11593Registered User
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Holy shit Rowen, those throwbacks look amazing. Def make me second guess my choice not to go with that graphic.
I can't remember if he (if so just go into his profile and go through his most recent posts in this thread), I think it was Norse (?) who did in sumarizing calls with Iggy on the Woodsman.
Sumarized; BG line goes 177, 182, 187, 192, and 118 underfoot across the range. Wider, flatter tail rocker (similar to SuperGoat), but with softer flex and no asym, along with a bit more tip to drive - so more of a powder ski again. Mount points are 2cm aft of Woodsman which the various BGs share rocker profile with now, with mount point at -9.5 for 187, +/- .25 for each longer (further back)/narrower (closer to center) size ( as far as I know).
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10-11-2021, 04:09 PM #11594
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10-11-2021, 04:22 PM #11595King potato
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Rowen what a beautiful sight!
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10-11-2021, 05:25 PM #11596
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10-11-2021, 10:09 PM #11597Registered User
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Bit of a unicorn.
https://rockies.craigslist.org/spo/d...392186977.html
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10-13-2021, 03:41 PM #11598
SOLD
Any interest in some minty 184 BG Tour 108s with ST Rotation 12's and Glidelite skins? Mounted at -1cm for 321mm BSL. Skied less than 5x, so spotless. I would split and keep the binders... as I fucking love them. They're too short for my fat ass, and I have too many skis...but they tour like a dream.
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10-13-2021, 04:08 PM #11599Registered User
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Quiver is starting to come together; these beauties arrived yesterday. 192 Woods 110 w/ 102 Tour top sheet. Waiting for CAST to ship but think these Raw P15s will make a nice pair.
Thanks to Iggy and Co for the unreal customer service (well documented here but pretty unreal you can email a company and receive a call directly from the CEO to talk skis); thanks as well for all the wicked info in this thread. And the snow line is almost at the valley floor. Today is a good day.
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10-13-2021, 04:24 PM #11600
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