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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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01-23-2019, 01:13 PM #5826
I'd like a Wrentel. 108. Mount point -7.5. Tip and tail rocker but more tip. Skis like the Metal and Atris tend to have strong followings
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01-23-2019, 02:57 PM #5827
ON3P SKIS Discussion
I have the Atris and yes, exactly. Fills a different need than my Wrens despite both being 108.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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01-23-2019, 03:19 PM #5828
Well that's almost exactly the point of a 108 daily driver....be good at almost everything and terrible at almost nothing.
Count me in! I've debated with myselt so long on this. I like you mount point, closer to Wren stiffness, something between the two for tail rocker. I'm a bit undecided on sidecut radius. Maybe mid-low 20s? Initially I thought longer and Wren-like, but I've been having some fun laying my Q-Labs over on low tide days. They are 20.5 and with aggressive detuning I don't see a huge downside to a more "playful" radius. I could talk myself in to either ski in the current lineup and probably be happy on either.
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01-23-2019, 03:56 PM #5829
OK ... maybe the key decision point (BG vs. C&D). 5'9", 165#, tight Colorado trees in medium density, 12" snow. Which ski would you pull off the rack?
Edit: I just had an IM session with Scott.
BGs blast through stuff & charge better.
C&Ds are easier to ski at slow speeds. I ain't no mach looney guy in the trees, so C&D looks like my solution.
Both skis float similarly with a center/forward stance.
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01-23-2019, 04:13 PM #5830Registered User
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184 C&D. Rounder flex + wider = more float for the ever-present CO dust on crust scenario. Rounder flex + shorter length = better in trees.
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01-23-2019, 04:33 PM #5831
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01-23-2019, 05:16 PM #5832Registered User
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Making me nervous guys with comments above that billgoat is a harder charger! Just picked up last pair of 189 C&D from Evo (however Iggy said they were makes three more pair with black top sheets, so a few more are available), and was crossing fingers they would charge hard. I hope I don’t regret not getting the SuperGoats! I just hope they charge as hard as the protest.
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01-23-2019, 05:36 PM #5833
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01-23-2019, 05:54 PM #5834King potato
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Dont worry, the 189 Bgs charge.
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01-23-2019, 05:59 PM #5835
Will ponder the addition of a 189 C&D while I wait for the three new pairs to be made. I know how BG’s and SG’s perform and live in their native habitat, so pretty sure this will all work out. I also know how a 187 and 192 perform, so I thankfully can contrast that data point, too.
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01-23-2019, 06:33 PM #5836
Yup! C&D it is. Someone buy my 177 Nanuqs + Coltex skins to take me over the top so I can order these (https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...kl-Nanuq-(177)). Nice, Spring Kool-wahr ski, but just not for me.
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01-23-2019, 06:46 PM #5837Registered User
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Stock ProTest? My 192 4 flex ProTest charge every bit as hard as my 191 BG or more. I feel the ProTest is faster in pow than my 191 was due the issue I had with them. Tips to soft causing a slowing/plow effect. I do hear the new 189 addressed that.
With that said, the BG absolutely charges.
1.5 flex SG absofuckinglutly charges like it’s no thang.
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01-23-2019, 06:49 PM #5838
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01-23-2019, 06:57 PM #5839
Skied my supergoats at PC yesterday, some really weird wind blown and heavy stuff...didn’t even feel it. And the protected blower? Forget about it.
I thought I brought too much ski but they are so forgiving and versatile. Great skis.
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01-23-2019, 06:57 PM #5840
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01-23-2019, 07:04 PM #5841tinkerer
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I found the flex 4 protest more of a charger (by a little bit) in deep, soft snow, and just as agile in same. BGs (2011 191, feels like 6-9-8 on the ON3P flex scale) better if there's any wind/sun crust, or tracks. Hoping the current C&Ds give me the best of both worlds on great days. Also, even my old RES is addictive, I am excited to try the dialed version.
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01-23-2019, 07:23 PM #5842Registered User
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I guess all things are relative. Protest don’t charge as hard as my old big dumps or atlas, however the flex 4 I have skied can charge. Not like some of the other dedicated chargers, but they are fast. Plus super slarvy and fun. As you can tell, I like them. They aren’t without fault, but pretty awesome. Always looking for something better, I guess that is why I pulled trigger on C&D.
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01-23-2019, 07:40 PM #5843
I am really thinking that I want to sell my 191 Goats, and swap for 189 C&D. Talk me out of this crazy talk anyone?
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01-23-2019, 07:45 PM #5844Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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01-23-2019, 07:59 PM #5845Registered User
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01-23-2019, 08:05 PM #5846Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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01-23-2019, 08:10 PM #5847King potato
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01-23-2019, 09:15 PM #5849Registered User
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I snagged one and can throw it up if Iggy doesn't mind.
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