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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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09-15-2018, 06:51 PM #4626
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09-16-2018, 05:51 PM #4627
I have 189- 98s and I honestly have to agree they are stupid easy to ski. They rail when I want them to and brake loose just as easily. Spring corn this year on these was the most fun I've had skiing in years. I haven't been on bulletproof glacier like we can get in NH and VT but I'm sure I will this season. Never once did I feel like my knees were stressed. I got these second hand so I'm not sure about their tune but they are working for my right now!
Sent from my XT1650 using TapatalkWhy don't you go practice fallin' down? I'll be there in a minute.
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09-17-2018, 02:56 PM #4628
From on3p insta-story......contender for worst top-sheet?
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09-17-2018, 03:03 PM #4629
Haha!
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09-18-2018, 08:06 AM #4630
I've got both the kartel 98 and the wren 98 but in a tour layup. Honestly, you can pop off stuff in either ski. I find the kartel is easier to release the tails in a turn, especially if you're trying to smear. That being said, on steeper/icy stuff, I like the grip/bite the wren 98 has. The kartel 98 is plenty fine on ice, it just handles it differently. Also, I find the wren's require you to have more of a forward leaning stance to drive them while the kartels allow you to lean back more.
PM me if you have specific questions. I live in Boston and ride mostly Northern VT.
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09-18-2018, 08:14 AM #4631Uno mas
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09-18-2018, 08:28 AM #4632
Been mostly at Stowe the past couple seasons. The wife and I have friends who live in the area so I crashed with them a few times last year. Now that we have a baby that is probably out of the picture. Haven't skied Burke yet but may check it out this season. Must have been someone else with the kartels. I've got veneer k98's and watermelon wren 98's with kingpins.
Just ordered a pair of custom BG 184's. Not sure what bsl you are but you're welcome to try them out some time if you'd like.
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09-18-2018, 08:35 AM #4633
ON3P SKIS Discussion
^these were stock. Just rare I see ON3P so was curious. Good luck w the baby logistics. 4 and 2 year old here - changes my seasonal vert totals for sure. Pretty much a weekend warrior but drop me a line if ever get over to Burke. Happy to show you around but lay out isn’t too complicated. Fun mountain when ma nature cooperates. Not the snow totals of Stowe or Jay. Light crowds and a fast lift allow lots of skiing in a short amount of time tho which helps with the kids. Cool family spot imho
Oh and 305bsl. Not sure that is the ski for Burke tho! Skied my 186 og bgs there last winter once. Ate the terrain up quite quickly. Felt big but I am more accustomed to a ~180cm 98-105 waist these days. Was also my only day in alpine boots in ~8 years so felt like I was skiing in casts. Telemark hasn’t died yetUno mas
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09-18-2018, 12:00 PM #4634
we're pretty much the same BSL so if you ever want to borrow sticks let me know. I run 179 wren 98's, 181 k98 but I wanted to get something a tad longer for the powder skis. Figured I'd lose some turning ability in tight trees but with the rocker etc I'm sure it will be manageable.
I've only been to Burke in the mtn bike riding season but maybe I'll check it out this winter.
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09-18-2018, 12:40 PM #4635
When I demoed W98s last year, I was surprised that I could ski them fairly traditionally. You could drive them, or ski them centered, whereas (as the others have stated) the Wrens require you to drive forward.
I really appreciated the tail - being able to release easily in refrozen bumps on Avalanche Bowl at Loveland last year.
The other cool thing was that these jibby skis are as stable as some companies' directional skis - maybe not as stable at speed as the Wrens, but stable.
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09-19-2018, 12:29 AM #4636Minion
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Can someone explain to me why ON3P skis are the "holy cow" of the ski world? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm just new to high-end skis and I genuinely would like to understand why these are so universally loved.
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09-19-2018, 01:03 AM #4637
The Wrens I have skied are easy to make work. The 179 108 I got last year to replace my 177 Cochise's were easier to work than what they were intended to replace. I would still have them if they were 184's. Great ski for sure but not this unmanageable big stick people like to tout them as.
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09-19-2018, 01:19 AM #4638Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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09-19-2018, 01:26 AM #4639Registered User
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Could it be that they are well built, bomb proof skis that are also a joy to ski? I guess a lot of folks also appreciate that they are american made, made by friendly craftsmen with transparency and approachableness that is usually very, very good - and at a different level than the big brands.
isn't the general consensus in this thread (and in pretty much all reviews) that wrens across all widths and sizes are chargers that are very easy to ski in spite of how capable they are? I guess it will be interesting to see if they retain their lack of threshold with the new, stiffer flex. Time will tell
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09-19-2018, 02:07 AM #4640
Iggy, you guys sell in Yurp, or do shipping costs (or something else) get in the way?
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09-19-2018, 04:07 AM #4641Why don't you go practice fallin' down? I'll be there in a minute.
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09-19-2018, 04:49 AM #4642
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09-19-2018, 07:38 AM #4643
There are some in yurp and some pros in your area.
What are you looking for? Where are you located? Kind of a long shot but if there is any way to help facilitate, I am flying to Milan to drive up to Innsbruck in two weeks. I would incur some costs but might be able to help you.
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09-19-2018, 09:56 AM #4644
1. Durability. Which isn't essential to skiing, but it's definitely nice. So even if you spend more, you're also spending less on them in the long run since repairs are rare.
2. Unique combination of being damp but also poppy and playful. And this is consistent across all ON3P models I've tried (which is several).
There are other model-specific reasons of course (like RES sidecut) but those two things are the general answer to your question IMO.
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09-19-2018, 11:15 AM #4645
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09-19-2018, 03:45 PM #4646
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09-20-2018, 12:48 PM #4647
what are people rocking for binders on their wider powder planks? Ive skied the newer tyrolia demos but I've always had pivot/fks on my other skis. Got a pair of billygoats coming and wondering what to put on them.
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09-20-2018, 01:04 PM #4648King potato
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09-20-2018, 02:13 PM #4649
I’m a fan of STH2’s myself, but whatever floats your boat.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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09-20-2018, 02:33 PM #4650
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