ON3P SKIS Discussion

[kid-kapow]

Yeah - that is in fact an issue when you have 10 years filled to the brim with killer graphics. I know I would be very hard pressed to decide on which top to go with if a custom pair was planned. I really like your approach of "you want it, we'll build it" over summer (and the rest of the season), with a bit more limited official offering custom wise the rest of the year.

Lookin at that rocker profile I must admit to being somewhat glad that the Fischer Ranger 102frs I looked at last night were indeed sold out. That rocker line just seems like perfection. I guess I should cue some more obsession over the role of Kartels/Jeffreys in my quiver... Especially the 108. Like I haven't thought enough about that already... Dammit.

Also, I do have some sympathy for you Iggy. Here you introduce three major innovations over the last two seasons - reworked C&D, titanal Wrens and a new shape/series in the Woodsman - and we start talking about a wider Woodsman and adding titanal to Woodsmans (my color confusion) before they are even available. You treat us well Iggy, really well - so sorry if we keep providing you reasons to take solace in bottled goods!

I skied the Wren 108 TI.

Sweet - thanks for the input! Much appreciated.

And btw, I do not intend for this to turn into a "Kid-Kapow comments on everything thread", so sorry if my posting frequency has been a bit high over the last couple of pages.

And sorry Iggy for x-posting images that you posted on NS, but they just look too good not to The on snow presence of these can probably be summed up in one word: SHAZAM!





Textured and color bonanza ftw!

And could these be one of the soon-to-be-released custom options? Look pretty damned good regardless! (photo: Stone4days over at NS screengrab off Forster Meek's Insta)

[kid-kapow]

Holy crap.




again - sorry for stealing your thunder from NS Iggy, but holy crap those look good. I have a feeling that filling up the custom slots over summer won't be much of an issue.

source, including quality posts from Iggy - especially page two, second to last post:
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/t...20-on3p?page=1

[sk8rat6587]

I'm speechless. Those are incredible.

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[nyskirat]

Want that wolf graphic.

Favorite part of my old Viciks.

[margotron]

Want that wolf graphic.

ditto.

sigh. too many skis I want to try. BGs fill the fat width but that Woodsman 108.

[Cars Suck]

[Lookin at that rocker profile I must admit to being somewhat glad that the Fischer Ranger 102frs I looked at last night were indeed sold out. That rocker line just seems like perfection.





Textured and color bonanza ftw!]

Man I picked up a pair of those Ranger 102 FR a couple weeks back and fyi that is a stoopid good ski. Crazy fun but locked the f in. But agree, the Woodsman looks killer in every respect. Wanting to go heavier ski / lighter binding for BC this year and think either the 108 or 116 would make a perfect single ski BC setup for Tahoe.

And thanks for re-posting those pics. Hadn’t seen the texture in new top sheets. So sick

[Cladragon04]

Awesome graphics!!!


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[gaijin]

I skied the Wren 108 TI. It does have really good edge hold on hardpack and it is probably the most damp ski I have ever skied. The day I skied it, it snowed 3 inches on top of refrozen hardpark. It handled transitions from refrozen crap to pockets of fresh snow very well. It also worked fairly well in moguls for how stable it is. If I was forced to have only one ski this would most likely be it.

One negative to the ski, is it may be too damp. It is less lively than either my wren 114 or bodacious.

Is it big boy stiff? Or can my 5'8" 160lb self GS the 184? Does it require speed to turn? Is it a dawg at low speeds, like in flat light? Does it crank medium radius GS arcs while allowing you to drag hip... or is the radius too long and medium radius turns are better surfed?

On paper, it looks like it might be my Hakuba resort non-storm day ski. Concern is the radius is too long if it's too stiff for any medium speeds/turns.

[kid-kapow]

Man I picked up a pair of those Ranger 102 FR a couple weeks back and fyi that is a stoopid good ski. Crazy fun but locked the f in.

Yeah, I really like their width, stiffness and rocker profile, and I expect they do very, very well on icy groomers. I would def not mind owning a pair, especially for what I nearly got to buy them for They seem like really good skis!

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Textured in the wild! I really, really like this finish - it looks bonkers! Sorry for reposting this picture for the third time in this thread, but oh well

[gaijin]

We gotta compliment kid-kapow’s vanity posts with some on-hill stoke about performance.

[Kaaji1359]

So I'm debating a pair of 2019 181 Kartel 96's and was wondering you guys' opinion on them based on my other 2 skis in my Quiver (sorry if this isn't the right area to do this)...

I've had a pair of Line SFB 105's from 2013 as my one-ski-quiver for 6 years and wanted to branch out, so I recently bought some 116 ON3P Billy Goat's and fucking love them. But now I want a ski for those hard-pack icier days in CO, and was considering the Kartel 96's as something stiffer than my 105 SFBs. So my thinking was the Kartel 96 for hard-pack / icier days (probably 50% would use this ski), Line SFBs for those softer days, and billy goats for powder.

Thoughts? Would waiting for the Woodsman be a better bet, or is that a more directional ski like the Wrenegade?

FYI I'm 5'10" 170lbs, advanced skier, love the bumps and tight trees, and jumping off everything I can find (more natural jumps, not really into park). Not really a big fan of ripping groomers, but with that said I'd still like more stability on groomers than my Line SFBs.

[Tailwind]

I would likely take the Wrenegade off your list.

For the Woodsman vs Kartel it will likely be a bit of time before we have a full answer but I would say the questions you need to ask are how often you plan on skiing switch (not just landing) and also how centered vs upright you want to ski.

The transition from Billy Goat to Woodsman will likely be an easier back and forth but the Kartel adds something really playful if you just want to mess around on bad snow days.

[caulfield]

...on-hill stoke...

Older skis still work! April showers at Crystal a couple weeks ago

[tuco]

Caylors & SG shuttin' down Brighton

[detrusor]

So many SG days this year!


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[CascadeLuke]

Older skis still work! April showers at Crystal a couple weeks ago

Miss these. They own the spring
Basically an easy skiing skinny BG
Heaviest Steeple 108 pair

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hiking bird...

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Miss these. They own the spring
Basically an easy skiing skinny BG
Heaviest Steeple 108 pair

That's what I want now. Been skiing my 116 BGs every day, and have no complaints but I wonder how well of an everyday ski they'd be if just a little skinnier. Those with a pair of shifts would be what I would like to buy next.

[kid-kapow]

Woodsmans are live.

SIZE	SPECS	TURN	EE	Weight
172cm	124/96/115	20.2m	135.5	kg
177cm	125/96/115	20.8m	140.0	kg
182cm	126/96/116	21.5m	144.5	kg
187cm	127/96/117	22.2m	149.0	kg

SIZE	SPECS	TURN	EE	Weight
177cm	135/108/125	22.3m	140.0	kg
182cm	136/108/126	23.0m	144.5	kg
187cm	137/108/127	23.8m	149.0	kg
192cm	138/108/127	24.5m	153.5	kg

SIZE	SPECS	TURN	EE	Weight
177cm	141/116/131	23.0m	136.0	kg
182cm	142/116/132	23.8m	140.5	kg
187cm	143/116/133	23.8m	145.0	kg
192cm	144/116/133	24.5m	149.5	kg

#holyjeebusthesedimensionsareenticing!

What can I say - my k108s, k116s, C&Ds and w96s all of a sudden have a more uncertain future acoming. Quiver changes might be inbound, again... Yup, I am pretty sure they will. Woodsman96 and 116 here I come. I think. Dammit.

And Iggy - whoever thought up that marketing copy deserves a beer, cause they sure sound bang on for what I want.

[tpacent]

Woodsmans look so good. I love how they change the effective edge as you go down from the 116 to the 108. This strategy with Jeffrey/Kartel made me hope they would do the same with the woodman. Makes sense given the purpose of the skis. Anyone have any idea on weight? I am Assuming 187 116 is similar weight to 116 Jeffrey 186?

[iggyskier]

Woodsmans look so good. I love how they change the effective edge as you go down from the 116 to the 108. This strategy with Jeffrey/Kartel made me hope they would do the same with the woodman. Makes sense given the purpose of the skis. Anyone have any idea on weight? I am Assuming 187 116 is similar weight to 116 Jeffrey 186?

I need to wrangle up weights - we just have a lot of data spread out over two years of production sheets. But weights are comparable to the Jeffrey. Metal wren has been coming in a bit lighter than stock. Lots of moving parts in here right now, so on my list this week to get that data in. We have just been getting hounded to get skis up - specifically the Woodsman - though. Once I have get everything reconciled I will post them up.

[tpacent]

I need to wrangle up weights - we just have a lot of data spread out over two years of production sheets. But weights are comparable to the Jeffrey. Metal wren has been coming in a bit lighter than stock. Lots of moving parts in here right now, so on my list this week to get that data in. We have just been getting hounded to get skis up - specifically the Woodsman - though. Once I have get everything reconciled I will post them up.

Thanks iggy. What’s the recommended mount for the woodsman? -6/7?

[iggyskier]

Thanks iggy. What’s the recommended mount for the woodsman? -6/7?

Range is -5.5 to -6.5 on the flat ski length.

[tpacent]

Range is -5.5 to -6.5 on the flat ski length.

This ski is fucking awesome. Unicorns exist!

[rainy512day]

Range is -5.5 to -6.5 on the flat ski length.

I was on a 182 Woodsman 96 proto at Meadows a few weeks ago. What was the mount point on those? I