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  1. #6476
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    Scott is there a patreon we can support for the whiskey this thread causes you to drink?

  2. #6477
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupreChicken View Post
    Likewise.
    Same here.

    I tour a lot with my standard layup BG's. Because every time I'm on some other ski I wish I had my BG's instead. They are really way too heavy to tour on, but on the positive side, my legs are like steel by march.

  3. #6478
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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    For reference, my steeple 116 in a 184 weight 2210 g each. Love skiing it, meh about skinning with it.

    Edit: ideal shift setup. At my weight (165) Iím generally fine to ski just about anything I can get to by hiking/skinning on that setup without missing my goats.

    If Iím on lifts, the billy goat is still king
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  4. #6479
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    Another data point for people looking for excuses to lug BGs and Steeples uphill. I put in a very long day on my 184 Steeple 108s yesterday. I sometimes wish they were a bit lighter on the way up for sure, but I also don't want to give up any of their current abilities on the down, so unless Scott and crew somehow defy physics I'm thinking boots and bindings might be a better place to dump some weight without impacting the magic sauce that is built into these skis. Yesterday's mission saw conditions ranging from steep, firm chalk in the alpine to isothermal schmoo near valley bottom. Steeples were predictable and confidence-inspiring in it all and ripped the pow/hot pow at mid elevations with authority. My buddy on lightweight skimo skis skied all the same stuff, but was obviously less confident and having less fun. It's hard to know if the reduction in effort/calories he burnt on the way up were worth it on the down.

  5. #6480
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    BG's in 184 are 2.38 kg's.... so likely the touring layup would only take that down to 2000-2100 ish. Which isn't bad, but still on the heavy side for touring IMO.
    According to EVO and Powder7 ski weights project the stock BG 179 is in the range of 2280-2290g. My 179 BG tours are 2170 and 2177g. So savings of about 120g.

  6. #6481
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    The problem with lighter boots is they aren't going to do as good of a job driving those heavy ass skis you just hauled uphill, so not sure that compromise makes a lot of sense because it defeats the purpose somewhat. FWIW, I used to tour on regular Billy Goats, and then on skinny goats which were much better as the weight loss was very noticeable. I do kind of get why Scott decided to move away from a touring line in general - the Steeples were only halfway there in terms of weight savings so probably didn't make a ton of sense.

    I do wonder what kind of a difference a semi cap construction and slightly thinner bases and edges could have... but then there's a lot of logistics in terms of material orders and volume needed. Would likely need to sell quite a few of them to be worth the hassle.

  7. #6482
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey311 View Post
    According to EVO and Powder7 ski weights project the stock BG 179 is in the range of 2280-2290g. My 179 BG tours are 2170 and 2177g. So savings of about 120g.
    This is in line with what ON3P claims on their website “weight savings of 100-150g depending on length”.

  8. #6483
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    Semi Cap is negligible in weight savings. Just not enough material to make a substantial difference. It is core far and away #1, then base/edge. We're testing, but core's take time. If we get to a design that skis how we want, and puts us in the weight class we want, we'll release it. We don't need it from a capacity standpoint right now, though.
    Seriously, this canít turn into yet another ON3P thread....

  9. #6484
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    Ski house rental ON3P lineup at Big Sky.

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  10. #6485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey311 View Post
    According to EVO and Powder7 ski weights project the stock BG 179 is in the range of 2280-2290g. My 179 BG tours are 2170 and 2177g. So savings of about 120g.
    This sounds in the ballpark.

    Assuming no significant layup changes over the past few years, my 186cm, 2014 BG Tours (thanks again @lucknau) come in right around 2270 each.

    That's an inbounds weight for me.

    I'd still like a compromised pair that comes in around 1700 to 1800 for lugging uphill, but I know I'm dreaming.

    Scott has enough on his plate, and deviatinng from bamboo would no doubt be a major prototyping effort for such a small market segment.

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  11. #6486
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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Ski house rental ON3P lineup at Big Sky.

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    Is this a rental house with your on3p lineup, or your house with an on3p rental fleet?(assuming the former)
    Just in case there are on3p demos at big sky... gonna be there is less than 2 weeks.

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  12. #6487
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    Rental house with our groups fleet.

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  13. #6488
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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    We don't need it from a capacity standpoint right now, though.
    C'mon, it'll be the hottest thing since 193 C&D's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

  14. #6489
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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Rental house with our groups fleet.

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    Nice! Very jealous, right now. Nice fleet and nice house! Enjoy!

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  15. #6490
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    Quote Originally Posted by uglymoney View Post
    Rental house with our groups fleet.

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    Nice clamp coordination
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  16. #6491
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    Got to demo a Woodsman 96 prototype at Mt Hood Meadows demo day this past weekend. Just took it out for a few runs. First impression is it has much more Wrenegade bones than Kartel. Overall felt like a Wren with a looser tail. It has more forward mount than the Wren. I was able to ski it with a more centered to slightly forward stance to get it to perform. Skis fine at low speed but really comes alive with some speed.

  17. #6492
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    Sounds like exactly what I want for non BG days.

  18. #6493
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    ON3P Quiver

    128 > 118 > 108 > 88

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  19. #6494
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    Looking for ski advice: I'm a new skier and have recently fallen in love. Now I'm looking to buy my first pair of skis and have gone down the rabbit hole that is the internet, which has been suggesting ON3P skis everywhere I turn.

    Would Kartel 96 skis (161 cm) be a good ski for me?


    • 5'6" (168 cm), 150 lb guy in my 20s
    • Intermediate skill level (just became comfortable on blues, not falling while controlling my speed)
    • Want to get good at blacks, doing groomed runs faster, carving, and maybe a few small jumps here and there (so 90% groomers, maybe I'll venture into tree land eventually)
    • Live in AZ, plan on southwest skiing (AZ, CO, UT, CA)
    • Would prefer a 1 ski quiver

  20. #6495
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElementOfSurprise View Post
    Want to get good at blacks, doing groomed runs faster, carving, and maybe a few small jumps here and there (so 90% groomers, maybe I'll venture into tree land eventually)
    Ok - so that is not the Kartel96 imho, but more Wren/Woodsman terrain.

    That being said, for where you are at skillwise Kartel96s should be perfect for that kind of use. They have enough sidecut to be able to cater to many turn shapes, yet a healthy rocker line makes them float better than they ought to. Their short effective edge make them easy to handle on groomers, yet they have enough backbone to handle speed. Personally I would opt for a ski that is the same lenght as you or longer - not shorter - and the short effective edge could make the ski have a speed limit or feel short/unsupportive with a definite decrease in soft snow capability.

    I am 175cm/70 kg and used to have a pair k98s in 176 that I have since sold. They were a lot of fun, but 181 would be a better for me as the 176 were just too short for charging, while perfect for park. Then again - my rabbit hole excursion has gone on a bit longer than yours, so might like longer skis than you

    That being said - chat with the good folks over at ON3P.com - they are very, very good at giving stellar advice and setting you up with the ski that you need.

  21. #6496
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    GTFO JONG



    This place is fucking soft these days.

    ...and yes K96 is a good ski for lots of ability levels (especially someone who is newer and skiing from more of an upright position and would benefit from a looser tail).

    You should have been here yesterday!

  22. #6497
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    ON3P SKIS Discussion

    Iíd recommend the Soul 7.

  23. #6498
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    Sick jackattack! Anything fun in the rest of that rack?

  24. #6499
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainy512day View Post
    Got to demo a Woodsman 96 prototype at Mt Hood Meadows demo day this past weekend. Just took it out for a few runs. First impression is it has much more Wrenegade bones than Kartel. Overall felt like a Wren with a looser tail. It has more forward mount than the Wren. I was able to ski it with a more centered to slightly forward stance to get it to perform. Skis fine at low speed but really comes alive with some speed.
    Pretty interested in these things, you know what kind of waist sizes will be coming out? I know Iggy doesnít dig all the pre year hype per say but I would really love know more about these things esp with all the crazy good sales on skis this time of year. Your initial reactions is pretty much what I was hoping for.
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  25. #6500
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    They more or less match the wren/kartel waist sizes and run just a little longer. I think Alex said there would be a 191.

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