ON3P SKIS Discussion

[ASP]

Had my BG pilgrimage on a 189asym variety...like UCMERIP has pictured above.... 18 inches+ at Xtal and dumping all day. What an absolutely phenomenal ski...so easy and so loose but you can rage when you want to and shut it down in an instant as long as you keep light shin pressure.

Wow incredible ski, what took me so long....

[detrusor]

I’d certainly be interested in buying a pair of the 164 or 166 bulky goats for the older daughter…..


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[SkiLyft]

Ditto for the wife. ^^


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[kid-kapow]

so first day out on 182 BG118s in pretty phenomenal conditions, if a bit poor visability wise.

In a statement that will surprise nobody in this thread - wow - they are great. They are def one of the loosest and easiest to ski pow skis I've ever been on. The next few days will tell how they do variable. They did not feel locked in or hard to handle at lower speeds at all. In fact - they were borderline effortless and telepathic to ski.

I also totally understand Iggy's comment that the BG118 is a better pow ski for most directional skiers than WD116s (or WD118s if such a ski existed). I did the two last runs on WD110s, and while loose, easier to shut down than the previous WD108s and really fun to ski in pow, they are still not as effortlessly loose as BGs - you def notice that tails have a bit more support (no surprise due to mount point and significantly less taper).

As for the inevitable 182 WD110 vs 182 MF108 comparison - their differences are as you'd expect based on WD110s slightly stiffer shovels and less taper which make them bit more supportive, where MF108s are a tad looser. Both are great. And yes, the new 182 WD110 def feels different to the OG108.

So yes, early yet - but thus far -> Iggy&crew knocked it out of the park with the updated WD110 and BG118.

[undertow2]

so first day out on 182 BG118s in pretty phenomenal conditions, if a bit poor visability wise.

In a statement that will surprise nobody in this thread - wow - they are great. They are def one of the loosest and easiest to ski pow skis I've ever been on. The next few days will tell how they do variable. They did not feel locked in or hard to handle at lower speeds at all. In fact - they were borderline effortless and telepathic to ski.

I also totally understand Iggy's comment that the BG118 is a better pow ski for most directional skiers than WD116s (or WD118s if such a ski existed). I did the two last runs on WD110s, and while loose, easier to shut down than the previous WD108s and really fun to ski in pow, they are still not as effortlessly loose as BGs - you def notice that tails have a bit more support (no surprise due to mount point and significantly less taper).

As for the inevitable 182 WD110 vs 182 MF108 comparison - their differences are as you'd expect based on WD110s slightly stiffer shovels and less taper which make them bit more supportive, where MF108s are a tad looser. Both are great. And yes, the new 182 WD110 def feels different to the OG108.

So yes, early yet - but thus far -> Iggy&crew knocked it out of the park with the updated WD110 and BG118.

kid, not surprised at all and so stoked on your beta…. I had a huge moment of weakness and purchased 192 118s when Iggy posted factory finds…. Will be a couple of weeks before I get out on them but will be rocking my Woods 110s this weekend and will report back…. Thanks again for the review…


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[kid-kapow]

I had a huge moment of weakness and purchased 192 118s when Iggy posted factory finds….

Man, those look great. Totally understand that not getting them was not an option - they look sensational.

I should also add that the skiing I did today was typical early season pow skiing with some billy goating. Aka the skiing you do when things have not filled in yet, we had rain two days ago, and everything underneath today's 15-20cm of relatively dryish fresh is ice, bumps, holes, trees, bushes, etc. But they handled it with aplomb - so easy to change directions.

I plan on doing back to back runs with WD116s tomorrow - should be fun.

[Bandit Man]

Someone is loving her first Pow day on her new Jessie 102’s. Amazing how much float 102-mm provides when you weigh 105-lbs!

[EWG]

Who wants a pair of 2015 102 Steeple prototypes still in the wrapper for $325?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...type=top_picks

[rudy]

I really don't need these "skies"... did you happen to find a length on that listing anywhere?

[davjr96]

On boulder Craigslist it looks to be an identical listing and is 174.

[paschta]

Excited to join the ON3P tribe with some new Woods 110s

Slotting them in next to my Mindbender 99’s as a wider more playful but still directional ski. Can’t wait to get out on them

[eSock]

Any PNWers happen to have a spare set of 189 BGs they wouldn't mind renting out for the season (or selling)? I'm coming to terms with the fact I won't see my right ski till spring but don't know I can make it a season goatless

[Sessiøn]

I know we are quite a BG centric group here, and for good reason. However I would like to make a quick shout out to the current J118.

I have been on every vintage of BG, and Jeffrey/Caylor in multiple lengths.

The current J118 is fucking DIALED. Best that range has ever been. This past few weeks have been deep in the PNW. From blower to typical Cascade Concrete. And man have these things been on fire. I think it's the most nimble, best floating, and best crud busting iteration f the design so far. The new tip taper really shines, and addresses some issues I had in the line in past years. The pair I have now is joining the lineup with my J108 from last year as ski's I will keep in the quiver for some time.

If you like a ski that doesn't demand you stay on top of it, won't kick you ass if you get a little back seat, and likes to pop off every wind lip it see's while still handling the chunder with grace. It's definitely a winner.

I think my annual BG/Jeffrey flip flop may be over.

[lucknau]

I know we are quite a BG centric group here, and for good reason. However I would like to make a quick shout out to the current J118.

I have been on every vintage of BG, and Jeffrey/Caylor in multiple lengths.

The current J118 is fucking DIALED. Best that range has ever been. This past few weeks have been deep in the PNW. From blower to typical Cascade Concrete. And man have these things been on fire. I think it's the most nimble, best floating, and best crud busting iteration f the design so far. The new tip taper really shines, and addresses some issues I had in the line in past years. The pair I have now is joining the lineup with my J108 from last year as ski's I will keep in the quiver for some time.

If you like a ski that doesn't demand you stay on top of it, won't kick you ass if you get a little back seat, and likes to pop off every wind lip it see's while still handling the chunder with grace. It's definitely a winner.

I think my annual BG/Jeffrey flip flop may be over.

Man, that’s awesome… now I have to get a J118. Maybe I can just watch you ski on yours.

[MHSP1497]

I know we are quite a BG centric group here, and for good reason. However I would like to make a quick shout out to the current J118.

I have been on every vintage of BG, and Jeffrey/Caylor in multiple lengths.

The current J118 is fucking DIALED. Best that range has ever been. This past few weeks have been deep in the PNW. From blower to typical Cascade Concrete. And man have these things been on fire. I think it's the most nimble, best floating, and best crud busting iteration f the design so far. The new tip taper really shines, and addresses some issues I had in the line in past years. The pair I have now is joining the lineup with my J108 from last year as ski's I will keep in the quiver for some time.

If you like a ski that doesn't demand you stay on top of it, won't kick you ass if you get a little back seat, and likes to pop off every wind lip it see's while still handling the chunder with grace. It's definitely a winner.

I think my annual BG/Jeffrey flip flop may be over.

This was the review I’ve been waiting for… Been considering retiring the Caylor’s but was waiting for some feedback on the J118. Thank you!

[Sessiøn]

This was the review I’ve been waiting for… Been considering retiring the Caylor’s but was waiting for some feedback on the J118. Thank you!

My my main complaint with the older skis was there was too much float in the rear of the ski, so it was a little too balanced over the full body of the ski leaving you kind of flat when it came to the overall float, the change to more float in the forebody is definitely noticeable to me on this version, which has really been keeping me dancing between the BG and the Caylor/Jeffrey for years. But the new design/iteration keeps the playful freestyle feel I like, but still handles the crud. The feeling I get is kind of like the Bentchetler that while super fun in the soft, did not hold up to Mt Hood mid-mornings or afternoons. This holds up.

[PowTron]

JF118 is soooooo fun. I miss my Kartel 116, but honestly the new version is exactly as you described!

[phatty]

The feeling I get is kind of like the Bentchetler that while super fun in the soft, did not hold up to Mt Hood mid-mornings or afternoons. This holds up.

Dangit! I haven't even gotten my new BGs yet and you have me lusting after the JF118. The old BC was one of my all time favorite skis, but felt they were too soft for PNW. Sounds like this may be a new competitor.

[MHSP1497]

JF118 is soooooo fun. I miss my Kartel 116, but honestly the new version is exactly as you described!

PowTron, can you compare them to your Caylor’s? I have them now, and am seriously considering the new J118 for next year and retiring the Caylor’s. Hoping they’re what I love about the Caylor but without the weight and better tip/tail shape. The Caylor is 1 of the “stompiest” skis I’ve ever ridden, it just begs to pop off every single ripple in the snow.

[tuco]

I'm considering JF118T to compliment my cold dead hands Caylors.

[MHSP1497]

I'm considering JF118T to compliment my cold dead hands Caylors.

This is an endorsement of all endorsements, IMO.

It’s also where I’m torn… Do I go 50/50 layup on a Jeffrey 118 or stock w/ softer flex. Since the new stock layup is so much lighter than previous, I’m uncertain if I should opt for the Tour Core w/ stock flex or Stock Core w/ softer flex. Both have a nice round flex profile that I really like (my J108’s are stock w/ softer flex, but my BG108t’s are std tour flex). 1st World Problems for sure.

[XavierD]

192 Billy Goats like to go down the fall line, fast.

That’s the review

[jdadour]

192 Billy Goats like to go down the fall line, fast.

That’s the review

I can concur. Got out on my 192s last week for the first time. I straight lined this runout and thought I was going too fast... apparently I wasn't. Super stable at speed. Wow

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[Orthoski]

Someone alluded to this recently, but I agree that the Wrens don't get enough love in this thread anymore. Skied the Wren 102 Ti for a number of days in a row out east and they are a fantastic ski for those not fortunate enough to live out west. I've skied numerous ON3P skis and each has a unique flavor, but for someone living out east it is a GREAT ski. I'm 6'2", 175, found the 184 length to be super easy to carve but then release, throw sideways, even found it easy in the bumps because even though it has some metal, it also has that classic ON3P rocker that makes absorbing bumps easy. What's nice is that it preserves the contradictory damp but lively bamboo core that ON3P has perfected while biting on harder surface when you need it to, and still super fun in the soft stuff when it snows a couple inches or on manmade snow. Sure, on pure ice go get a race ski - but when there was some ice but also the hope for anything else including the snow that collects at the side of trails, it was perfect every single day. This is a very easy ski that charges and found myself reaching for it over and over.

[Bandit Man]

192 Billy Goats like to go down the fall line, fast.

That’s the review

Isn't the 192 basically a standard flex SuperGoat minus the Asym at this point?