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  1. #15001
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    Quote Originally Posted by forumskier View Post
    Someone already snagged the 186 Woodsman 108 Black Bombers. Those were ridiculously rad, I kinda wanted not gonna lie.
    The plane looked different than the plane on the 108s I have. Super cool.

  2. #15002
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    So what's the consensus on the new BG 118 sizes? As a fan of the old 191, are we looking for the new 191 or the 186? 186 just seems so short.

  3. #15003
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    So what's the consensus on the new BG 118 sizes? As a fan of the old 191, are we looking for the new 191 or the 186? 186 just seems so short.

    From XavierD

    Current (23/24, 24/25) 186 BG is closer to the olde 189 (which was based off the 191) than the older 184/186. The 191 is based off the Super Goat with how the ski balances, but generally a bit toned down”

  4. #15004
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    Any reason to buy Wren110s with a quiver already bloated with midfat chargers? I had plans to scoop up one of the last pairs to serve as my travel ski, but got HLS fl105s instead

  5. #15005
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    Quote Originally Posted by McShortyShorts View Post
    Any reason to buy Wren110s with a quiver already bloated with midfat chargers?
    any reasons not to buy it other than it not being sensible, overlap and so on? These are the last on offer before they are gone forever #fomo

  6. #15006
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    Quote Originally Posted by McShortyShorts View Post
    Any reason to buy Wren110s with a quiver already bloated with midfat chargers? I had plans to scoop up one of the last pairs to serve as my travel ski, but got HLS fl105s instead
    I've been wondering the same thing. I am bloated around 108-112mm.

    I am still wondering how well Wren Pros perform on firm snow. I loved Viciks and old school wide Wrens on firm, but Wren 108s felt more powder specific, and I'm wondering where on the spectrum Wren Pros fall.

    What length FL105s did you get?

  7. #15007
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    the latest iterations of the wren should blow past iterations of that ski out of the water wrt hard snow prowess due to the titanal in the construction. The pro should be the best of the bunch with their longer contact lengths and less aggressive rocker lines / splay. Sure, they will not magically transform into Völkls wrt precision, but then again they will retain the soft snow prowess they've always had aka still being fairly loose for what they are while still being able to rally.

    (based on my time on multiple iterations of the 108, the 114 and the 96 - the latter both with and without titanal.

  8. #15008
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    oh, snap - I wish I had some cash to spend just about now: an additional 100 bucks off remaing 2024 stock skis (excluding RES skis) on top of the sale price!

  9. #15009
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    I definitely have a good dose of FOMO, and sad to see the Wren line going away

    Quote Originally Posted by forumskier View Post
    What length FL105s did you get?
    Ended up getting the 185s as a lot of my skiing is still east coast and I generally prefer tight trees and survival skiing. As advertised, it's a great DD and there haven't been too many times I was wishing I was on a longer ski (I'm 183cm, 80kg)

    I have an old pair of 191 Wrens, 113 waist I think. Honestly pretty fun and not as one-dimensional as I thought they would be. I also have 184 Wren 108s and 88s but they're for Tele use

  10. #15010
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    I hope metal becomes a touch easier to get because I think a woodsman ti would be awesome.

  11. #15011
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    $599 for new Jeff 118s was too good for me to resist. Will be interested in how they compare to my beloved BGs. Still thinking about the BGs in the Factory Finds, but will need to unload a few things first.

  12. #15012
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    Did any non-On3p-affiliate get on the new BGs?

  13. #15013
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    Quote Originally Posted by phatty View Post
    $599 for new Jeff 118s was too good for me to resist. Will be interested in how they compare to my beloved BGs. Still thinking about the BGs in the Factory Finds, but will need to unload a few things first.
    How’d you find those? I’m seeing $699


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  14. #15014
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    Flash sale for an extra $100 off.

    FLASH is the code.

  15. #15015
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    Quote Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll View Post
    Flash sale for an extra $100 off.

    FLASH is the code.
    Shiiiiiit


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  16. #15016
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    If that code works for Factory Finds ….. sheeeeet, well I literally just bought used 182 Wood Eagle BGs earlier this week.
    _______________________________________________
    "Strapping myself to a sitski built with 30lb of metal and fibreglass then trying to water ski in it sounds like a stupid idea to me.

    I'll be there."
    ... Andy Campbell

  17. #15017
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    Quote Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio View Post
    If that code works for Factory Finds ….. sheeeeet, well I literally just bought used 182 Wood Eagle BGs earlier this week.
    Code only works for FY24 stock skis, not Factory Finds. Trust me, I tried!

  18. #15018
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    Anyone love J118s in spring slush? Was surpris to find them more fun than my Wren 98s in wet and heavy conditions. Am I just weird?

  19. #15019
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    Anyone love J118s in spring slush? Was surpris to find them more fun than my Wren 98s in wet and heavy conditions. Am I just weird?
    Different ski, but 186 Kartel 116 could have been the best slush ski I've ever been on. I absolutely hated them on spring mornings on frozen ocean, couldn't find balance point or feel confident.. but as soon as the sun kicked in, they were uber surfy, the width disappeared, and I could lean into them with a lot of confidence. A revised version in the J118 sounds fun in spring!

    I wanted BO118s to surf like this in slush, but they just don't. They are still great in spring, more so on that frozen ocean, but they feel more traditional outside of fresh snow and chop, not really surfy.

  20. #15020
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    Anyone love J118s in spring slush? Was surpris to find them more fun than my Wren 98s in wet and heavy conditions. Am I just weird?
    I generally think my most fun powder ski will be my most fun slush ski. Not a surprise on the J118. Very excited to get back on them.

  21. #15021
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeSnow View Post
    Anyone love J118s in spring slush? Was surpris to find them more fun than my Wren 98s in wet and heavy conditions. Am I just weird?
    Caylors(120uf 1st iteration of Jeff line)are my DD. They shred spring conditions and generally have the highest fun factor in my quiver, but for corn to mank nothing beats Bluehouse Maven.
    So, no, you're not weird

  22. #15022
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuco View Post
    Caylors(120uf 1st iteration of Jeff line)are my DD. They shred spring conditions and generally have the highest fun factor in my quiver…
    Glad they’re getting the love!!! They are damned fun! My Jeffrey 118’s are just the replacement I was hoping for…

  23. #15023
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    Agreed on wide skis in spring slush. If it's truly soft, my jeffrey 122s are the move.

  24. #15024
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    Just snagged the 186 mango goats in factory finds. Very stoked!

  25. #15025
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    Quote Originally Posted by beeeom View Post
    Just snagged the 186 mango goats in factory finds. Very stoked!
    Those were awesome! Great purchase.

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