ON3P SKIS Discussion

**PeachesNCream** · 04-16-2024, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by PeachesNCream

Pics didn’t work for me, but very curious to hear more about these lower camber BGs

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Also I probably missed this, but sounds like the jeff118 got lower camber as well. Has anyone been on the lower camber jeff118? Sounds money

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**PeachesNCream** · 04-16-2024, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll

It wouldn’t let me post. Do we have to use a Google share now?

I use Tapatalk where pics still seem to be working so couldn’t tell ya. But non-Tapatalk users are all not able to post pics

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**K1mJ0ngTr1ll** · 04-16-2024, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by PeachesNCream

Also I probably missed this, but sounds like the jeff118 got lower camber as well. Has anyone been on the lower camber jeff118? Sounds money

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Cocoapuff loves his. I’m sure he will chime in!

**K1mJ0ngTr1ll** · 04-16-2024, 06:28 PM

This work?

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**MHSP1497** · 04-16-2024, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by PeachesNCream

Also I probably missed this, but sounds like the jeff118 got lower camber as well. Has anyone been on the lower camber jeff118? Sounds money

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It is money. In the right snow…

**cocoapuff** · 04-16-2024, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by MHSP1497

It is money. In the right snow…

Ditto

**ASmileyFace** · 04-16-2024, 09:17 PM

Those bases are unbelievable. What a score. That rocker profile looks money with the low camber.

**K1mJ0ngTr1ll** · 04-16-2024, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by ASmileyFace

Those bases are unbelievable. What a score. That rocker profile looks money with the low camber.

I’m really pumped on it. I know the 187 was pretty dialed so I’m hoping I’m getting some of the positive traits from both.

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sf · 04-16-2024, 11:04 PM

What’s the mount point on the newest gen BGs?

**Sylvan** · 04-16-2024, 11:52 PM

191 is -10.5, .25 cennies forward per size from there.

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**The Iron Horse** · 04-17-2024, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Sylvan

191 is -10.5, .25 cennies forward per size from there.

The 181 is actually -9.5 (81cm from the tail) although it is listed as -10 on the website. I contacted ON3P about the discrepancy and they replied that the chart on the website was mistakenly listing flat mount vs final. Not sure if that pertains to all the lengths.

**PeachesNCream** · 04-17-2024, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by MHSP1497

It is money. In the right snow…

Little looser, little less versatile?

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sf · 04-17-2024, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Iron Horse

The 181 is actually -9.5 (81cm from the tail) although it is listed as -10 on the website. I contacted ON3P about the discrepancy and they replied that the chart on the website was mistakenly listing flat mount vs final. Not sure if that pertains to all the lengths.

Thanks.
Didn’t know they had started putting it on the site.

Looking forward to hearing peoples views on the bg108.

**MHSP1497** · 04-17-2024, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by PeachesNCream

Little looser, little less versatile?

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No… it’s just not the right tool for dust on boilerplate snow. Anything soft and 3+ inches deep and they’re glorious. They’re just a lot to manage on icy boilerplate, scraped-off groomers. The Jeffrey 108 is much more composed in these conditions. Still not awesome, but are less of a problem child.

**PeachesNCream** · 04-17-2024, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by MHSP1497

No… it’s just not the right tool for dust on boilerplate snow. Anything soft and 3+ inches deep and they’re glorious. They’re just a lot to manage on icy boilerplate, scraped-off groomers. The Jeffrey 108 is much more composed in these conditions. Still not awesome, but are less of a problem child.

I mean a 118 ski on boilerplate is usually not a good combo, but good to know. Pretty stoked on this less camber situation

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**Sessiøn** · 04-18-2024, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by PeachesNCream

Little looser, little less versatile?

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Not at all. I actually felt the soft snow performance was unchanged. However they felt more composed going fast in chunder.

**cocoapuff** · 04-18-2024, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Sessiøn

Not at all. I actually felt the soft snow performance was unchanged. However they felt more composed going fast in chunder.

funny I found myself skiing much faster and more composed than I expected down crusty low elevation groomers back to the lift in a year where the only quality snow was on upper 1/3. Probably just anecdotal. No idea why that would be on current iteration and less camber. But I surprised myself. Or the J118 surprised me. Oh and so so surfy in pow. I ski mine at -1.5cm.

**Jvhowube** · 04-18-2024, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by cocoapuff

funny I found myself skiing much faster and more composed than I expected down crusty low elevation groomers back to the lift in a year where the only quality snow was on upper 1/3. Probably just anecdotal. No idea why that would be on current iteration and less camber. But I surprised myself. Or the J118 surprised me. Oh and so so surfy in pow. I ski mine at -1.5cm.

Seems like they'd be kinda similar to a Wildcat? Maybe not as stiff? Any insight on that?

**cocoapuff** · 04-18-2024, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jvhowube

Seems like they'd be kinda similar to a Wildcat? Maybe not as stiff? Any insight on that?

I have skied 184 WC's. In comparison, the 186 Jeff requires a more neutral stance. You can drive the WC's shovels harder. The WC's are stiffer, feel more precise and are better on firm. The Jeffs have better float, suspension, and are significantly surfier. They are quicker and more nimble in tight spaces for me as well. More of a true pow ski that handles variable really well whereas the WC is more of a wider all mountain ski that also floats.

**K1mJ0ngTr1ll** · 04-19-2024, 05:15 PM

I had the Chipotle Blades in my cart but bought the finds BG instead.

Was it a sign that I needed to 4/20 blade it with the grizzly corn blade?

(My favorite top and base)

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**theetruscan** · 04-20-2024, 02:22 PM

minicorns shipping just in time for mini objective season. go get first tracks down the snow melting off your roof.

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**kid-kapow** · 04-20-2024, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jvhowube

Seems like they'd be kinda similar to a Wildcat? Maybe not as stiff? Any insight on that?

My custom stiffer Kartel116s were not nearly as planky underfoot (in the cambered section) as Wildcats.

I would imagine that the rounder flexed ON3P - much like Rossi Blackops118 I might add - would ski variable significantly smoother at less than mach schnell for more neutral (stance) skiers than the WC.

I know that people love their Wildcats, and having not skied it I might be talking out of my ass - but to me that shape seems like it could be made more versatile with a slightly rounder flex offset with a more advanced construction taking up the slack - meaning adding some rubber, titanal or other dampening agent. Kinda like DPS Koala118/119s - great in dry snow, increasingly more work the denser/wetter then snow become - so very dissimilar to BGs and Jeffs (having only skied jeffs though) which are great in denser snow, or again BlackOps 118 who mate shape and construction in a way to make something very loose also very capable across most conditions.