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02-15-2016, 12:17 PM #51
I've been on the Steeple 112 for the last two years, exclusively bc. I can't recall exactly what they weighed before inserts, but I do remember the advertised weight being accurate.
As for how they ski, I've had them on every possible snow type and they're killing my quiver. They float like a 120 in powder and bite like a 95 on windblown chalk. Very intuitive in trees, stable at speed. The flat/slightly curved tail is $$. Tail clips stay put.
6'2 210lbs with pack. TLT speed radicals and TLT6p. Mounted recommended.
Be happy to answer any specifics
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02-15-2016, 12:32 PM #52
Steeple 98 looks great
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02-15-2016, 03:58 PM #53
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02-15-2016, 04:46 PM #54
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02-17-2016, 05:22 PM #55
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02-22-2016, 12:57 AM #56
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02-25-2016, 11:49 AM #57mental projection
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02-27-2016, 10:50 AM #58tinkerer
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Spent most of the month on my 2011 BG 191s (the year where only 191s had RES). Fucking love them: super stable, no fucks given. I got curious. What differences will I notice if I pick up this year/next year's BGs in a 189/184 (both in general and size-wise)? With the 191s, nearly everything is awesome, but I occasionally get a bit thrown/worked, err, billy goating around and in tight trees.
I got my brother on a shorter pair this year (light dude), and they're making him ridiculously happy.
Guess I've gotta pick up some wren 98s too.
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03-02-2016, 01:03 PM #59
You will notice an improvement in handling with the 189 vs the 191...it is slightly narrower, has a different tail profile (and shorter tail), and slightly lighter feel underfoot. These are all small differences, but I can notice them when I ski the skis back to back with no problems.
As for the 2017 BG in 189 vs the 191 you have...all of the above and then a difference on groomers and harder snow where the taper points and length have been modified to enable a bit more grip when needed.You should have been here yesterday!
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03-03-2016, 01:54 AM #60
Hey PowTron
so I've been looking at the Steeple 112's cuz i want a touring ski in that approx width. Steeples seem attractive just due to the evolved Billygoat heritage, although i've never skied the Billys . . .
I've read lots about the Billygoats so guess i know what they're about; just wondering how similar the Steeple 112 actually feels. You know, how well it keeps that easy, intuitive. snag-free in the tip feel i keep hearing about with the Billy's.
Wouldn't bother you about this, but i've literally found only like two reviews.
I know I know "search jong" yadayada whatever. Search function kinda sucks.
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03-03-2016, 10:35 AM #61tinkerer
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Hey Powtron,
Thanks. One question: You're comparing the 2016 189 vs 2017 189, in both cases, right? What about 184/189? If I'm just occasionally too much of a pussy for the 191, is it worth taking the 184 for a test run, or are the differences to the 189 enough probably? I finally managed to do some "real harm" (first core shots and slightly fucked edge) to the 2011 BGs, so I'm pretty sure I gotta buy more shit.
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03-03-2016, 11:15 AM #62Registered User
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The 189 and the 191 are pretty much equivalent.
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03-03-2016, 09:41 PM #63
Loveland demo is on for Sunday, March 13th?
Still going back and forth between the two Steeples & the Goat.
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03-03-2016, 10:40 PM #64
Any Colorado demos March 21-27th? Will be in Town those days, hoping for some snow too
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03-06-2016, 08:26 PM #65
According to friflyt.no there'll be a 113 Wrenegade - Dennis Risvoll's pro model. Sounds like a 191 charger.
Any more info on that?
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03-06-2016, 11:42 PM #66
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03-07-2016, 01:14 AM #67
In case this slipped past anyone, I just noticed that next year's Steeple 98 has a traditional sidecut. It's more of a touring version of a Wren. The Steeple 112 has retains RES and can still be thought of as a touring Billy Goat.
[edit] correction: next year's fat Steeple drops from 112-108 (and retains the RES profile).
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03-07-2016, 01:21 AM #68
Tahoe, they did mention in the article that it wasn't in the new catalogue.
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03-07-2016, 07:34 AM #69
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03-07-2016, 09:14 AM #70Registered User
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03-07-2016, 11:33 AM #71
At one point I heard some chatter that ON3P was considering bringing back the 191cm Wren as a preorder only, special edition ski. Built to order, no inventory, and I assume no deals. Basically for the people that have whined about the 191 Wren going away, it's pay up or shut up. So I assume that's what friflty.no is talking about.
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03-07-2016, 11:41 AM #72
Looks nice... Steeple 98 is a cool looking ski. Still kinda heavy (for my weak wimpy self) but the 179 @ 1860g is at least in the conversation now.
Does your demo fleet ever make it to the SLC area? Any demos w/tech bindings?
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03-07-2016, 11:42 AM #73
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03-07-2016, 12:02 PM #74
It's not like the Billy Goat really needs any more love on TGR but I now have a dozen or so days on my new-to-me 12/13 191 BGs and I can't contain myself.
This past weekend especially showed me just how amazing they are. Saturday was 10" of disgustingly dense new snow with snain coming down at Kirkwood. And by the time we got there it was really cut up and gnarly. There were chunks of snow 1'+ cubed that were not breaking apart when skied through. Really challenging conditions and my buddy on his Cochises was suffering. The BGs though made it actually fun. In the really gnarly places I could make quick, short radius turns to maneuver through it. When it was a little more even I could start trenching big turns and the skis just busted through it all. And the dampness made the ride as smooth as it could possibly be.
Then yesterday was 18" of much better quality - but still heavy and dense - powder. I could still keep my weight far forward without any worries of tip dive. And the landing platform is so stable. I landed a jump too far forward and for a moment thought my heels were going to rip out the bindings but the tips were strong enough to bounce me back upright. And the tails are always there for leverage when I land in the backseat.
Oh, and over the course of the season I've skied over a ton of rocks and have barely scratched the bases. They are incredibly bombproof.
So good...
I'm looking forward to trying some other on3p skis in the future.
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03-07-2016, 12:41 PM #75
Zero offense taken :-) I knew it sounded funny, but Fri Flyt is usually a reliable source.
For your pleasure, here's Google Translate's wonderful effort - in all its deranged glory:
"Dennis' promo dell
2017 Stuff : On3p Wrenegade 113 is Dennis Risvoll his pro-model with the US skimerket - a pair of skis that will require her husband.
Wrenegade 113 is admittedly not in On3p its list of next year's Ski models , but the three narrower Wrenegade editions provide enough an idea of what next winter's "Norwegian" pro-model features .
- Dennis its signaturski Wrenegade 113 in 191 centimeters we will take in some pieces off. But it will probably be a handful for most , says importer Jørgen Power Quist in JBS Sport."
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