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  1. #9101
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    BG108 sounds really good for 90% of soft snow touring. Having the pivoty goodness of RES at that waist width should translate to a really versatile ski even in soft, non-pow snow.
    Common sense. So rare today in America it's almost like having a superpower.

  2. #9102
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    This debate over 116 vs 108 makes more sense understanding use and context. I said this a few pages ago but snow density and the terrain youíre touring on makes a huge difference.

    I personally have always liked wider skis. No issues with knees, Fitness is good, Touring in continental snow. I have Wren 114ís as a daily driver in the resort and have no issue getting them high on edge carving or driving them through tight moguls. I would always go 116 for a single touring ski quiver but thatís just me and my use case. Lot of reasons a 108 would be good for other people.

  3. #9103
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    Wood stiff supers just showed up. Freaking rad. Will mount up in short order with some old new 916 steels I’ve been saving for a special occasion. And my quiver is complete for awhile...or I could be talked into some touring skis.

  4. #9104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    Wood stiff supers just showed up. Freaking rad. Will mount up in short order with some old new 916 steels I’ve been saving for a special occasion. And my quiver is complete for awhile...or I could be talked into some touring skis.
    post pics ya hoser, I been waiting to see them
    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

  5. #9105
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    The dark Caylors are headed back to Iggy sometime this winter.

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  6. #9106
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    what are the other veneers?
    "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

    photos

  7. #9107
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    K108s. Quite possibly the most fun ski I’ve ever owned for when it’s somewhere between ice and deep crud or nectar.
    Last edited by Conundrum; 10-13-2020 at 10:43 PM.

  8. #9108
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    nice. I own the predecessor Jeffrey 110 in veneer. Amazing ski.
    "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

    photos

  9. #9109
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    Those Caylors are sexy. I'd love to see the collection of old ON3Ps that Iggy has managed to recollect over the years.

  10. #9110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    The dark Caylors are headed back to Iggy sometime this winter.

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    Wood veneers AND metal Sollys?!

  11. #9111
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    Mount point question:

    (tried searching and reading back a few pages)

    How did the mount point evolve for the Woodsman line? I remember a discussion here about the line moving back a tad in this year's model.

    I have last year's 192 with masking tape on them, prepped for mounting. Should I mount back a few mm to "update" to the new norm? Or did the sidecut geo change, too?
    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

  12. #9112
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Mount point question:

    (tried searching and reading back a few pages)

    How did the mount point evolve for the Woodsman line? I remember a discussion here about the line moving back a tad in this year's model.

    I have last year's 192 with masking tape on them, prepped for mounting. Should I mount back a few mm to "update" to the new norm? Or did the sidecut geo change, too?
    I have last year's 182 and mounted them 1cm back from the line. I felt like that was right (for me) but can't compare to any other mount point.

    The line did change for this year. I think Iggy said it moved 0.75cm back. I could be off a little.
    Not sure if sidecut geometry was adjusted at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

  13. #9113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Mount point question:

    (tried searching and reading back a few pages)

    How did the mount point evolve for the Woodsman line? I remember a discussion here about the line moving back a tad in this year's model.

    I have last year's 192 with masking tape on them, prepped for mounting. Should I mount back a few mm to "update" to the new norm? Or did the sidecut geo change, too?
    Same question. Was thinking of going 1cm back but my telemark mounting projects always leave me over thinking things. I am back about 1cm on my 2018/2019 Protos and dig it. Slightly longer tail than production.
    Uno mas

  14. #9114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    How did the mount point evolve for the Woodsman line? I remember a discussion here about the line moving back a tad in this year's model.
    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post

    WOODSMAN
    Woodsman gets new width - 102.
    96 gets tighter radius + new core profile/layup.
    108 gets minor sidecut tweak + new core profile/layup.
    116 gets minor sidecut tweak, flex made a bit softer + new core profile/layup.
    Moved the mount point back 0.75cm across the line.
    Flex on 177/182 made a bit softer in all widths.
    source: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...68#post5986168
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    I have last year's 192 with masking tape on them, prepped for mounting. Should I mount back a few mm to "update" to the new norm? Or did the sidecut geo change, too?
    Quote Originally Posted by iggyskier View Post
    (in answering the same question concerning a 182 ski)
    Not necessarily. With a mount change comes a change to sidecut, core profile, binding mat...so your Woodsman are designed to be skied at that recommended line. The vast majority of people skied them there this past season. We wanted to shorten the tail just slightly and felt - at their current stiffness - a bit more tip to drive would be better compared to a bit more playfulness/balance, hence the change. 0.75cm isn't a huge change here, so I wouldn't stress about it to much. If you like a more directional ski, move it back. If not, stick where it is.

    source: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...98#post5992198
    I would've gone back for slightly less tail

  15. #9115
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    There it is. Thanks
    life ain't guaranteed, love your people while you can

  16. #9116
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    X2 Thanks kapow
    Uno mas

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