Appreciate the responses...it really is a 50/50 argument. I’m not into spring touring due to mountain biking and resort skiing so that takes that out of the equation. Again, I’ve been on different versions of BGs since 2010 so you know I’m a huge fan of that ski. Even talking to my guiding friends opinions are evenly mixed but for the vast majority of tours I’ll be seeking out soft conditions.
One concern I have with a narrower BG is having an even narrower pintail and losing a bit of support in the rear on landings (just have to be more focused on being centred/forward). Yes I could go to a WoodsmanTour to alleviate that but I want to maintain the looseness/surfiness of the BG. So I suppose the question is...how many Interior BC guys would consider 108ish over 116ish?
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Hmmm, y’all are making me rethink if I should switch from bg 108t to the 116mm BG Tour as a 1 ski backcountry quiver for Colorado...
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Yes, if I go touring, it's going to be pow. Otherwise why would you bother? Maybe I'll tour a few days in the spring on some corn, but aside from the odd inversion, it is never not pow in the backcountry from December to the end of April in my neck of the woods.
Given how good the BG116 is in 2”+ of soft, I couldn't imagine wanting to go narrower for anything I would ever choose to ride.
Interior BC guy here - GO 116!!!!!
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"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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i call shenanigans, no one expected this timeline
i’m 3 pairs in since covid hit, own more skis than bindings, and still think i need a daily driver
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The only shenanigans here is grad school, haha. I purchased a Zero G 108 (not really a pow ski) around the time of that post (Jan 2016) and then a Lowdown 90 spring touring ski a few years ago. So yeah, time to update the quiver now that I have a real job 'n stuff.
Frankly, that just speaks to how well Scott/ON3P nailed the design of the BG and Jeffrey 110. Don't really feel the need to buy new skis when those skis are so sick. I'm sure they'll die eventually -- the flex isn't as stiff as it was when I got them -- but they've got lots of good days yet.
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"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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Can I please buy the wren pro 110 now?
Apologies in advance for a "where should i mount" question.
I have some kartel 108s that I'm putting shifts on for 50/50 (probably more like 70/30) inbounds/side-slack-back country. Other ski is 116 kartels with pivots. Due to swiss-cheesing I have to either mount the 108s ~1.25 cm back or ~1.25 cm forward of the recommended line. Small, but non-zero amounts of park, buttering, and spinning.
Back 1.25. If they were park skis, you probably wouldn’t be mounting shifts.
Back.
Mine are 2cm back and ski great there
i concur
Mount -1 to -2 if you like a more traditional mount. Or just buy a Woodsman, which is the ski you should really own.
Mount on the line if you like a more progressive/new skool mount. Mine are on the line, and I wouldn't change a thing.
A litmus test: If you liked the Cochise on the line, you'll prolly want to mount back. AFAIK, everyone who prefers the Kartel/Jeffrey at -2 also likes the Cochise on the line (XavierD, shroom, LVS, etc). If you felt like the Cochise would be more balanced with a more forward mount, then mount on the line. That'd be me. I mounted my Zero G 108 (aka Cochise Tour) like +3.
"Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers
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Most people that mounted Kartel/Jeffreys behind the line did so before the Woodsman existed. IMO now that the Woodsman exists there is no reason to mount a Jeffrey back. Either mount on the line, or buy a Woodsman.
(FWIW I experimented with mount on an older Jeffrey with demo bindings and liked -2cm. I currently own a pair of Woodsman)
Someone talk me into/out of a custom Woodsman 102 tour with white topsheets as the narrow half of a 2-ski PNW touring quiver (the other half being Bent Chetler 120s).
Was also looking at the Line Vision 98, but I’m not kind to my touring skis and they don’t have a great reputation for durability.
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