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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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05-30-2020, 02:42 PM #8751Registered User
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Thats been on the radar to for sure. The On3p people seem to press me toward the normal Billy Goat, instead of the supergoat, every time I message with them though.
I’ve wondered how a Super Goat with Res would pivot in deep snow compared to the Wren. On tired legs, in tight steep trees the Wren is a bit of work, but that’s mainly a 3pm issue... I have some Line Pescado’s I use for playful and tight terrain, but I’ve been interested in a chargy ski for deep days that at least isn’t more work than the Wren at slow speeds. Ideally a little looser and more drifty as well. Super goat, Billy Goat and Cease and Desist have all been pondered.
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05-30-2020, 03:58 PM #8752
Any of the RES skis will pivot and drift easier than the Wren. You should just beg steal or borrow to get a run or two on the BG. The reason they have a cult following is that they're so unique.
The SG is a little slower to come around than the standard BG but it trucks. It's extremely damp (probably more than the wren) and quite heavy. "Carve" is not really in its vocabulary. It won't be super forgiving at 3pm, it still wants the fall line, but I have been in that position, and switching to a different ski didn't improve my skiing.
However, being in CO, the deep blower would probably be best met by the C&D or Protest.
How many more months until winter?
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05-30-2020, 05:14 PM #8753
^^^ This guy knows his stuff.
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06-08-2020, 07:41 PM #8754
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06-09-2020, 02:29 PM #8755
I'm late in this response but I wanted to acknowledge Scott's thoughtful replies and exciting information.
For a laugh, check out the discussion last fall starting here, leading up to this recent reveal of the touring line.
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06-09-2020, 02:31 PM #8756
cont...
Some points to highlight and riff on...
The move to the new composite is interesting. I was unaware that there was ever a strength issue with the old layup, but my ski-bubble does not include park, and it sounds like the Adidas Tracksuit Straight-Legged Mitten-Flailing Gumbi crew were really the only ones to flex the skis deeply enough to delaminate them...
But it's cool to see a custom composite weave updating the build for almost the whole lineup, especially with core work really coming into focus as both an innovation path and as the method of customizing flex going forward. I like the character of the core wood to be clearly evident (duh, this is why the bamboo skis have such a following) and feel like some of the layups out there can mask this property with too much carbon or glass. I'm assuming that with the commitment to the new weave you're also happy with the snow feel? Is there any noticeable difference in damping or pop?
What about torsional properties of the new weave? With most of the cores slimming down slightly but getting a different composite, does the new standard layup change in torsional stiffness? Tangentially, I assume that the ti laminate's primary effect is to stiffen the ski torsionally, best applied on firm surfaces of course (perhaps too bitey for west coast standard pack, per Scott's recc of the standard build unless primarily skiing firm)... and wonder how the new layup and ti builds will coexist.
Heard on the Blister podcast that Paulownia is indeed the other constituent of the tour cores alongside bamboo. Scott, Alex, can you expand on this? I'm curious about where you're placing each wood and what the blend is.
Graphics: The new sidewall color choices sound fun. And I'm really digging the new base colors as seen in the insta feed.
Rocker profiles... will the narrower RES skis carry over the same rocker lines of the wider ones?
The RES touring line will be a slam dunk I bet. I'm also keen on seeing the weight of the Woodsman 96 Tour on custom.
Veneers... still offering these?
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06-14-2020, 12:00 AM #8757Registered User
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I'm curious about the titanal custom option for the Woodsman 108. How much impact on the stability/playability continuum will there be?
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06-16-2020, 01:43 PM #8758Registered User
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06-17-2020, 02:58 PM #8759Registered User
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ON3P's come with a 1/1 edge bevel from the factory. Does everyone run them 1/1 or are folks playing with the bevel?
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06-17-2020, 06:59 PM #8760Watch out for sticks.
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I do 1° on the side and 2° on the bottom on my BGs and Woodsman 116s. I find it noticeably easier/more fun to roll them over on hardpack. Everything else I have in my personal quiver is 108, and I run it 1/1.
Norse, I just got my first pair of skis with the new tour core today. From L-R, core goes P,B,P,B,P. RES rocker profiles are all the same. I'll let Iggy clarify the rest, shit's above my pay grade.Last edited by CallMeAl; 06-17-2020 at 08:59 PM.
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06-17-2020, 09:26 PM #8761Registered User
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Fair to say that if the k96 is my hardpack ski, then I'd probably like it a bit more with a 1/2, or is there more to it than that?
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06-18-2020, 10:08 AM #8762
Just you're personal skis tuned like this or were the Woodsie protos I got from you tuned this way? I knew I liked extra bevel(not necessarily more angle, but bevel extending into base. Essentially slightly base high). They skied perfect for me right out the gate.
I was working through serious hooking issues with my SG's when the season abruptly ended.
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06-18-2020, 11:08 AM #8763Watch out for sticks.
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I like that ski at 1/1, but I've never tried anything else to be honest. Part of that is because they're in my demo fleet, and I like to keep my demos tuned as neutral as possible so they can accommodate as many skiing styles/turn shapes as possible.
Nope, those should be 1/1 (see above for reasoning). They're significantly detuned in the tips/tails though. They were the slightly stiffer/straighter protos right? Pretty sure I gave those some substantial gummy love so some of the lighter/slower skiing customers could bring them around easier.
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06-24-2020, 01:29 PM #8764Registered User
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06-24-2020, 02:14 PM #8765
Except that the Jeffrey series hasn’t dropped yet and it’s after June 22... Still patiently waiting to see the new graphics. Gonna be ordering a set for this upcoming season.
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06-24-2020, 08:17 PM #8766
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I had an active email chain going w Iggy on a blem purchase and then he went radio silent. I assumed he was just busy getting the 2021s live while also dealing w a very sick pet but maybe something even more serious up w/ the 6/22 deadline miss?? Hope all ok in ON3P land.
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Uno mas
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06-24-2020, 09:10 PM #8767
Missed part of this week + large portions of the last two weeks (truly last two months, but alas) with Dante - who died Monday evening. Just ended up proving very time intensive as we went from essentially cat critical care two weeks ago to basically cat hospice late last week. In early April, he came back from a similar situation with a lot of care and honestly, as of about 3 weeks ago, seemed like we might have found a spot that would have worked for awhile. He had good blood work - for the vets here, creatinine holding 2.5-3.2 (down from 8.5+), BUN around 40 (down from about 130), phosphorus around 4 (down from as high as 12), was eating on his own (I had been supplementing his calories by syringe feeding 2x/day before this), good mood, jumping around, alert, etc. That came crashing down though about 2.5 weeks ago as he ended up fluid overloaded- 2.5 nights in cat ICU - and he just ended up far too gone after having to hold him off of fluids while he body recovered from that, so finally made call on Monday after his comfort level/function really hit a wall over the weekend.
Took some time last two days and getting my bearings this evening - but should have updates to timeline for everything tomorrow. Obviously have quite a bit of email to catch up on, plus bunch of skis to ship.
Most 2021 drops likely pushed about 5 days or so from listed drop date. Will work through all those dates tomorrow. With Covid, most everything starting late so going to be a bit of a strange line launch, but it is what it is. With that, Jeffrey should be up Friday. Graphically, bit louder this year, so hopefully people like it.
Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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06-24-2020, 09:38 PM #8768
Sorry about the cat, that sucks man.
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06-24-2020, 10:14 PM #8769
Sorry you lost your cat, man. It’s hard. We’ll be here when you’re feeling up to it. Take care of yourself.
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06-24-2020, 10:44 PM #8770
Losing a pet is the worst. Vibes.
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06-24-2020, 11:02 PM #8771Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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06-25-2020, 12:47 AM #8772Registered User
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Sorry for your loss, man. Beautiful cat.
Lost ours to sudden aggressive cancer last year, and that was a much harder blow than I ever imagined.
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06-25-2020, 02:50 AM #8773Registered User
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Iggy, great photos and gorgeous cat.
New sheets look great. Thanks for all you do for the community, and the sick skis.
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06-25-2020, 05:48 AM #8774
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Ugh, sorry to hear, Iggy. Beauty of a cat. I feared this fate when I hadn’t heard from you. You’ll see this once you catch up on email but I need to either give you a different shipping address or have you hold off shipping me anything for awhile. Sincere condolences.
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Uno mas
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06-25-2020, 11:05 PM #8775
Sorry to hear, losing a pet sucks. I'm especially partial to orange cats, we had to put our orange tabby Hobbes down last fall. Hang in there and I hope all the good times and memories can be a comfort.
Common sense. So rare today in America it's almost like having a superpower.
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