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Thread: ON3P SKIS Discussion
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09-09-2019, 07:43 PM #7151
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09-10-2019, 01:39 AM #7152
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09-10-2019, 07:57 AM #7153Registered User
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j96s should be pretty much perfect for what you want. If you want a slightly more directional and chargy version then go Woodsman96, though for playful stick with a fair bit of stoutness and a high speed limit j96s should be perfect. I would chat with ON3P and ask their recommendation for length, though the longer would probably be the more versatile. It is not like Jeffs are full rockered, just that the rocker lines are faily deep.
I would imagine that most park skis are not created to slay pure ice, so Jeffs + ice = shait is a mismatch that is kinda perhaps overly communicated by now. ON3Ps feel amazing on everything from hard snow to soft snow through pow - so go for it I say. On pure ice carvers are what is called for, but how often does one use carvers to get freestyly in the park?
Sure, something like Fischer Ranger FR 102s could be an alternative to Woods96s, but if you wanna give the quality craftmanship and stellar designs that is ON3P a go Jeff96s are a sure bet to awesomeness.
Not to be too positive or anything.
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09-10-2019, 10:30 AM #7154Registered User
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09-10-2019, 12:34 PM #7155
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09-10-2019, 01:27 PM #7156Registered User
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Jeff96s aren't designed to slay blue ice, and will prob be no less stellar at it than most freestyle oriented skis of its ilk. Again, something like FR 102s (mounted well forward of the line) or Rustler 9/10s might be slightly more grippy when the ice gets blue, but at a tradeoff for playfulness and ON3P's bombproof construction. Hard snow does not equal ice though, and jeff96s should slay groomers no worse than your regular park/freestyle ski I would imagine. Less camber to cause grip, but more supportive mid section - so just put the skis over all the way on edge and carve like you mean it and they should be fine.
In variable Jeff96s should punch above their weight due to their supportive mid ski. I have not ridden 96s, only 98s, and they at least were fairly supportive underneath the foot. I would only size down for park skiing. As has been mentioned jeff96s do have fairly deep rocker lines and a centered mount point, so by going short(er) you give up some top end speed for added butterability/freestyle gumption. By going with the longer of the two lenghts (unless you are very light) you end up with a ski that handles speed better and also probably handles variable better (since you have more of the supportive center of the ski to help punch through stuff). Jeffs are not as able as say wrens in making variable a disappear, but by staying centered and popping from bump to bump (instead of just motoring through) you still have plenty of speed potential in variable.
I dunno - the "jeffsy sucks on ice" mantra is getting a bit excessive at times. I found both my kartel98s and 108s to be a ton of fun, especially in softer snow (pure bliss on sun baked spring corn) Jeffs are sure more versatile than for instance wrens for the days when you do not wanna go full throttle and vary your turn shapes.
I've never skied on the east coast though.
sorry for going on and on. Brevity is not one of my strenghts.
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09-16-2019, 10:23 PM #7157
I think most of the guys that ended up with both ended up finding they preferred one over the other. So just something to keep in mind.
Steeple flex profile is super different from the stock BG. A Skinny Goat - which we've made a few times - would be a pretty different ski from a Steeple of any width, as the profile is a lot more progressive which gives you a lot more power. Steeple had a very round flex profile.
Anyone wanting a Skinny Goat for inbounds would want to go with something with that stiffer, more aggressive platform.
Blast from the past.
Bingo. That said, still not ready to design and build the like....7 pairs of Woodsman 124 we would sell.
I would personally lean 186cm unless you are crazy light.
Per usually, Adrenalated puts things in perspective.
If you are comparing the Jeffrey to a metal ski (Enforcer, MB, etc) designed for really good edge hold, it won't compete. If you are comparing it to rockered freestyle or park ski, it holds it own like everything else - all of which are going to have limitations regarding edge grip.
We definitely have a more off piste centric style, but we send a ton of Jeffrey 96 and 108 both to the Midwest & East Coast without issue. Like any ski, you will know where it excels and where it doesn't and adjust accordingly. So if you want something that is fun and stable in trees/soft snow/moguls, fully park capable, while remaining functional too and from on hard snow, Jeffrey is a good option.
Your park use would be the question, because that is where the Jeffrey would really outperform a lot of the hard snow centric skis (which, vice versa, will out perform the Jeffrey in a frontside capacity). Give us a call if you want to discuss more.Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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09-16-2019, 10:26 PM #7158Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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09-16-2019, 10:33 PM #7159
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09-17-2019, 12:04 AM #7160Registered User
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09-17-2019, 12:56 AM #7161
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09-17-2019, 07:10 AM #7162
Interested
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09-17-2019, 02:01 PM #7163Registered User
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Thanks Iggy
Shortly after posting this I saw you answer very similar questions on NS several times. It must get frustrating. Certainly doesn't go unnoticed
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09-18-2019, 12:07 PM #7164Registered User
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Coler me interested - pending how i get along with my newly acquired BGs and C&Ds, and beloved wren114.
So no, def do not need - but when has making sense ever played into these things?
Edit: man, looking over ON3P's entire production run - while the bedrock is always the amazing ride quality and construction, Iggy's team sure as hell have delivered stellar graphics year upon year upon year. Glad I am not getting any more customs any time soon, cause choosing what graphic to get is getting hard!Last edited by kid-kapow; 09-18-2019 at 12:55 PM.
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09-18-2019, 03:06 PM #7165Watch out for sticks.
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09-18-2019, 03:12 PM #7166
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09-18-2019, 05:14 PM #7167Watch out for sticks.
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09-27-2019, 11:25 AM #7168
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09-27-2019, 11:26 AM #7169
LOL
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09-27-2019, 11:51 AM #7170Seriously, this can’t turn into yet another ON3P thread....
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09-27-2019, 12:08 PM #7171
Ha. Nice name to go with that
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09-27-2019, 12:18 PM #7172
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09-27-2019, 12:23 PM #7173
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09-27-2019, 12:23 PM #7174
If I keep them like this, I'll have an excuse for being in the backseat all the time, I guess.
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09-27-2019, 12:32 PM #7175
My vote is to ski them as-is and report back.
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