Stevi Ray's Little Wing

**Honc** · 05-13-2005, 02:17 PM

I barbequed to that jam last night.

I double-dog-dare you to show me 5 minutes with more soul.

Seriously.

**mr_gyptian** · 05-13-2005, 02:19 PM

heh, well said.

**MOHSHSIHd** · 05-13-2005, 02:21 PM

agreed...

SRV was THE man imo...

watch the Live at Montreaux DVD if you haven't seen it...

**Crinkle** · 05-13-2005, 02:24 PM

austin city limits dvd of him is kick ass and that is one my favorite songs of all time.

**iceman** · 05-13-2005, 02:31 PM

Yeah, that DVD is great, the album version is only like half of the song honc

**Tippster** · 05-13-2005, 02:43 PM

The Stevie Vaughan "In the Beginning" CD (from before his "Ray" days) kicks ass as well.

**bcrider** · 05-13-2005, 02:46 PM

one of the greats for sure.

**MOHSHSIHd** · 05-13-2005, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

The Stevie Vaughan "In the Beginning" CD (from before his "Ray" days) kicks ass as well.

listening now (jambase rhapsody rules)....

SICK

**skifishbum** · 05-13-2005, 02:52 PM

Got stuck working the night of his last show. Road tripped into the city to Buddy Guys after work hoping him or EC would come down. For a while it was thought that EC was on the chopper too. A sobering night. Dude rocked and had finally got the smack monkey off his back. In Step was a killer final album for a little dude who wailed a big guitar. Unfitting that his chopper would go down on one of the shittiest ski hills there is.
RIP and rock on in heaven Stevie.
Thanks for pickin my 3 1/2 hour road trip tunes for me.

**Honc** · 05-13-2005, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

Yeah, that DVD is great, the album version is only like half of the song honc

DVD ordered. Thanks buddy.

Last night I engaged one of my roommates in a 2-hour debate: Jimi vs. Stevie.

I fought hard for Jimi, but this tune was the deciding factor. There were several breaks in the argument to "go to the videotape" and listen to licks in between shouting.

I was always of the opinion that Jimi was the most soulfull guitarist of the modern rock era, but last night my beliefs came crashing down. SRV is the king!

**slim** · 05-13-2005, 02:57 PM

Jimi and Stevi both were on-stage guitar masturbaters. Less is more. More is less.

**Tippster** · 05-13-2005, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by slim

Jimi and Stevi both were on-stage guitar masturbaters. Less is more. More is less.

Must be a Clapton Fan...

(I actually think Buddy Guy should be at least recognized for his influence on both guitarists in question.)

**iceman** · 05-13-2005, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Honc

Last night I engaged one of my roommates in a 2-hour debate: Jimi vs. Stevie.

Have you heard a live "Red House"?

Jimi could play the blues.

I can't answer that argument, they were different, but Jimi doesn't lose, I'll say that.

**Arty50** · 05-13-2005, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Honc

SRV is the king!

Uhhhh...no.

See this...

Live at the Fillmore East DVD

...or listen to this cd...

Live at the Fillmore East 2 CD set

...or this one...

Band of Gypsys (first release, single cd of the show)

**slim** · 05-13-2005, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Arty50

Masturbation.

**Arty50** · 05-13-2005, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

Have you heard a live "Red House"?

Jimi could play the blues.

Lifelines Box Set - Disc 4 - Live at the LA Forum

**Arty50** · 05-13-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by slim

Masturbation.

Why don't you just go back to listening to Belle and Sebastian or whatever it is you SF hipsters listen to.

**slim** · 05-13-2005, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Arty50

Why don't you just go back to listening to Belle and Sebastian or whatever it is you SF hipsters listen to.

Ouch. That hurts. That cuts deep man.

White man playing the blues: JJ Cale
Black man playing the blues: Muddy Waters or Albert King

**iceman** · 05-13-2005, 04:30 PM

Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love SRV. Always have. Little Wing (among a bunch of stuff) is amazing. And I think he has a lock on second-most-soulful-white-guy-ever.

After Lowell George.

**iceman** · 05-13-2005, 04:34 PM

(Buster knew I would say that)

**Arty50** · 05-13-2005, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by slim

Ouch. That hurts. That cuts deep man.

White man playing the blues: JJ Cale
Black man playing the blues: Muddy Waters or Albert King

Good, you no taste having crusty ass music hating hater.

( <- note the smily/winky face, sorry for forgetting it earlier)

However, if you want to be really picky, I guess Jimi and Stevie weren't 'true blue' blues musicians. It's my opinion that their styles were predominantly rock and roll based. But what's really funny is that many 'true blue' blues musicians considered both of them to be blues guitarists.

And interview with Buddy Guy:
http://www.pbs.org/americanrootsmusi..._buddyguy.html

Do you see Jimi Hendrix as a blues artist, as opposed to someone who was just interested in psychedelic rock? What are Jimi's blues roots, as far as you're concerned? What contributions did he make to the blues?

Jimi Hendrix was the Coltrane of modern music. And at one point in time he was similar to me. Nobody wanted to listen to it when you turn that amplifier up. The Chess people didn't, either. I found out later that this guy who produced my first record with Silver Tom came to New York and took Jimi to London because they accepted it there. And that's how he exploded. I think he played for Little Richard, and he hung around New York, and everywhere he would play, it was like when I was here: "Who's that?" But when he went to England - you know, the British people exploded blues more than Muddy Waters, B.B. King, and everybody else, because they accepted it as they were playing it and released it. Then it came back here, and the Chess people were saying, "Kick me, Buddy, because you've been trying to tell me this all the time, and I wouldn't listen."

When Jimi left and went to England, I heard a quote that he was just wild. I was wild, but I wouldn't use the effects and things like he was, because I figured if you couldn't get it out of your wrists or your fingers, I didn't want nothing else helping me. Which was a big mistake.

Let's jump to more contemporary times as we wrap this thing up. You played a big part in the whole blues revival of the 1980s. When you think of this blues revival, and you're one of the kingpins of it today, what do think of when you talk about, say, Stevie Ray Vaughan?

Stevie Ray Vaughan did to music what Michael Jordan did for basketball. I guess you have to be at the right place at the right time and play the right note at the right recording session. Stevie brought blues alive at crucial moments, so far as I'm concerned. Because they didn't explode B.B. King like that. I think every guitar player I know should have two Bs on his guitar - Stevie recognized the same thing. I'm telling you now, he brought so much to this music, it would take me longer than I got time to explain to you what he did for the blues. And one of the things that makes goose bumps come on me: Every time someone would ask him about it, he would go back and tell you, "Wait a minute, this is so and so's music." And white America was asking, "Who's that?" Which is the same thing they ask the Rolling Stones: "Who's Muddy Waters?' They was kind of embarrassed about it. I don't think Stevie was ever embarrassed. He let the public know, "This is Stevie Ray Vaughan, but I'm playing a Buddy Guy song, I'm playing a John Doe or whoever song. Something you never heard of. This is not Stevie's music. I'm playing what I heard from, and that's what we all do."

And here's another album that might interest you...

**mr_gyptian** · 05-13-2005, 04:47 PM

he may not be Jimi, but Son Seals was fun as hell. I first saw him at the Rosemont with Phish.(sugar blue was there too for a rip your face off funky bitch rendition). then saw him quite a few more times at various chicago venues.

**iceman** · 05-13-2005, 04:47 PM

Don't forget about Duane....

**Buster Highmen** · 05-13-2005, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

(Buster knew I would say that)

And I'd say Captain Beefheart:

Bat chain
Puller
Bat chain puller
Puller, puller

A chain with yellow lights
That glistens like oil beads
On its slick smooth trunk
That trails behind on tracks, and thumps
A wing hangs limp and retreats

Bat chain puller
Puller puller

Bulbs shoot from its snoot
And vanish into darkness
It whistles like a root snatched from dry earth
Sodbustin’ rakes with grey dust claws
Announces its coming in the morning
This train with grey tubes
That houses people’s very thoughts and belongings.

Bat chain puller
Puller puller

This train with grey tubes that houses people’s thoughts,
Their very remains and belongings.
A grey cloth patch
Caught with four threads
In the hollow wind of its stacks
Ripples felt fades and grey sparks clacks,
Lunging the cushioned thickets.
Pumpkins span the hills
With orange crayola patches.
Green inflated trees
Balloon up into marshmallow soot
That walks away in forty circles,
Caught in grey blisters
With twinkling lights and green sashes
Uuh
Pulled by rubber dolphins with gold yawning mouths
That blister and break in agony
In souls of rust
They kill gold sawdust into dust.

Bat chain puller,
Puller puller.

**Honc** · 05-13-2005, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Arty50

Uhhhh...no.

See this...

Live at the Fillmore East DVD

...or listen to this cd...

Live at the Fillmore East 2 CD set

...or this one...

Band of Gypsys (first release, single cd of the show)

You guys are preaching to the choir. I agree that they are different guitarists, and I own all three above-mentioned albums. Band of Gypsys has been the rock of my rotation since 9th grade. Listen to Little Wing (best to use live cuts) by both guys and make the call. As a finance nerd, this is the most empirically fair way to make the call. (certainly not perfect)

Rock is wholly rooted in the blues, so I guess the difference is who can make it sing...

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