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    I got rear-ended a few weeks ago. Initial repair estimate was sub-total loss threshold, but they found more damage after disassembly and are now totaling it. FML, I am not excited to be truck shopping in the current market.

    Payout is going to be $10,300, which is damn good for a '02 F150 with 135k miles. Any of these look like a dumb idea?

    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7554335
    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7486301
    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7497915
    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7538712


    I should probably up my budget to $15k-ish, but I am not excited to have a payment again.

    ETA: This is damn tempting, branded title though and the rear seat look small: https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7347014
    Last edited by Dantheman; 12-03-2021 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    I got rear-ended a few weeks ago. Initial repair estimate was sub-total loss threshold, but they found more damage after disassembly and are now totaling it. FML, I am not excited to be truck shopping in the current market.

    Payout is going to be $10,300, which is damn good for a '02 F150 with 135k miles. Any of these look like a dumb idea?

    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7554335
    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7486301
    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7497915
    https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7538712


    I should probably up my budget to $15k-ish, but I am not excited to have a payment again.

    ETA: This is damn tempting, branded title though and the rear seat look small: https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7347014
    Bed's are all useless.

    Jeezus old, high mileage F150's are going for ridiculous money, ain't they? Almost think I should sell mine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Jeezus old, high mileage F150's are going for ridiculous money, ain't they? Almost think I should sell mine...
    Relative to old high-mileage Tundras they look like a steal. I was so goddamn relieved they weren't going to total it. Today has not been a good day.

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    How bad is it really? Can you buy it back and straighten the frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark View Post
    How bad is it really? Can you buy it back and straighten the frame?
    They can fix it, but if I keep it the payout goes down to $7,100. Shop says it will cost close to $9,000 to fix it, so it's a lot out-of-pocket. Feels like throwing good money after bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    Rivian just got tested towing a car across the country. Range was fucking pitiful at 120-160 mile range at highway speeds per realistic charge (as in to maintain the battery you don't run it to zero and only charge to 80% to save charge time). It'll be sub 100 for contractors doing stuff in town or towing anything like an enclosed trailer or box. Add in all those extra stops you have to make, plus the added time of charging and they averaged barely over 300 miles PER DAY.

    Fuck that shit. Lightning isn't going to be any better than that and that is a non-starter for most people. They also completely gloss over the fact in a lot of situations they had to go out of their way to charge it currently. Oh and by the way, 1 in 4 charging stations was broken when they showed up, and the kicker, you probably will need to unhitch your trailer to charge the fucking thing.

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/43320/...-cross-country

    120 miles is a fucking joke. I tow my boat further than that to go to the lake most days, and forget about anybody who uses a camper. But the tesla bros who want an electric brodozer I'm sure will be stoked and fill the internet with "no one actually uses trucks for truck stuff" arguments that don't hold water outside of NYC or LA.
    Pickups use to get ~4-6 mpg too. It will get better as the technology improves.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    They can fix it, but if I keep it the payout goes down to $7,100. Shop says it will cost close to $9,000 to fix it, so it's a lot out-of-pocket. Feels like throwing good money after bad.
    With that math, yes it does.

    With a salvage title and another shop who only needs to "fix" critical components, perhaps not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark View Post
    With a salvage title and another shop who only needs to "fix" critical components, perhaps not.
    At this point I don't have much of a choice, they've already disassembled the bed.

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    Flat beds rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    ETA: This is damn tempting, branded title though and the rear seat look small: https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7347014
    So apparently this was totaled due to rear-end damage so I'm less concerned about the branded title. But, looking closer it's the 4.6L. Everyone online says to get the 5.7L, but compared to the 5.4 Triton in my old truck the 4.6L has more HP (310 vs 260) and similar torque (327 vs 350). Will I regret the 4.6L? I don't tow, but am often fully loaded with bikes and camping gear.

    I'm also looking at this: https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7554366#

    Looks to be an 8-ft box. Mad truck cred but that's a long ass truck.

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    Trucks.

    If you're not planning to tow maybe go drive that Tundra and see what you think. I bet it will drive great compared to what you're used to.

    At 15k, you're probably close to being able to step into a 2011+ F150 with a 5.0, which is a way better motor than a 5.4. I know prices are dumb right now though.

    And that red one is a 6.5' box. They don't make a crew cab f150 with an 8' box. I drive the same truck but with a 5.0, you get used to it. Assuming you don't have to park in the city frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    So .

    I'm also looking at this: https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7554366#

    Looks to be an 8-ft box. Mad truck cred but that's a long ass truck.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
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    Also this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    If you're not planning to tow maybe go drive that Tundra and see what you think. I bet it will drive great compared to what you're used to.
    Oh I'm going to drive it for sure. For an '02 my truck actually drove really well. Only one previous owner who was an older gentleman that babied it, suspension still felt great.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    At 15k, you're probably close to being able to step into a 2011+ F150 with a 5.0. I know prices are dumb right now though.
    You would think, but I'm not seeing any. Current prices are beyond dumb. When I got the call that they were totaling it I just put my head in my hands and sobbed a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    And that red one is a 6.5' box. They don't make a crew cab f150 with an 8' box. I drive the same truck but with a 5.0, you get used to it. Assuming you don't have to park in the city frequently.
    I think you're right. Looks long AF in the pics for some reason.

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    Yeah I went looking on KSL after I made that post. Now I'm thinking about selling mine lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Yeah I went looking on KSL after I made that post. Now I'm thinking about selling mine lol
    Srsly. I'm thinking I could get $20K for my '14 with 135K miles...

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    It's not specified in the ad, but more digging indicates that the red Ford is the 4.6L not the 5.4L. That might be a deal-breaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    So apparently this was totaled due to rear-end damage so I'm less concerned about the branded title. But, looking closer it's the 4.6L. Everyone online says to get the 5.7L, but compared to the 5.4 Triton in my old truck the 4.6L has more HP (310 vs 260) and similar torque (327 vs 350). Will I regret the 4.6L? I don't tow, but am often fully loaded with bikes and camping gear.

    I'm also looking at this: https://cars.ksl.com/listing/7554366#

    Looks to be an 8-ft box. Mad truck cred but that's a long ass truck.
    I’ve got a 4.6 in an ‘11 Tundra, and I tow a trailer with it monthly-ish. It gets crap mileage but has plenty of power. 120k so far, and nothing but routine maintenance. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive View Post
    I’ve got a 4.6 in an ‘11 Tundra, and I tow a trailer with it monthly-ish. It gets crap mileage but has plenty of power. 120k so far, and nothing but routine maintenance. Love it.
    Thanks! The fuel economy can't be worse than the Ford 5.4L, plus I bike commute most days during the week.

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    FTR, the Ford 5.0 gets reasonably decent mileage... for a full size truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    FTR, the Ford 5.0 gets reasonably decent mileage... for a full size truck.
    Mine does okay, but I have the long bed, 3.73s, a 2" lift, and a mid-rise topper, and I like to drive fast lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowaddict91 View Post
    Mine does okay, but I have the long bed, 3.73s, a 2" lift, and a mid-rise topper, and I like to drive fast lol.
    I can routinely get 20mpg on highway trips. Unless it's through Wyoming, then I get like 16.

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    I paid $20k 5 years ago for a 2013 w/ 50k miles on it. Then the motor blew up at 80k. Fuck Ford and fuck over paying in this market. A 2009 w/ 150k on it? Haaaa, yeah right. F that Shit. That truck will bleed you dry with repairs and gas money.

    I saw a nice '12 Tundra the other day for $22k and under 100k, and it was an hour away from me. Almost jumped on it. It went quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Name Redacted View Post
    I paid $20k 5 years ago for a 2013 w/ 50k miles on it. Then the motor blew up at 80k. Fuck Ford and fuck over paying in this market. A 2009 w/ 150k on it? Haaaa, yeah right. F that Shit. That truck will bleed you dry with repairs and gas money.

    I saw a nice '12 Tundra the other day for $22k and under 100k, and it was an hour away from me. Almost jumped on it. It went quick.
    1. I was already driving a 2002 with 135k. Seems unlikely that a 2009 with similar miles will be less reliable.

    2. Of course this is a terrible time to buy a truck. I'm not doing this voluntarily. I loved my truck and had every intention of driving it beyond 200k. It's not like the market is going to improve any time soon or that I have the option to wait it out.

    3. Around here a 2012 Tundra in good condition with less than 100k is currently $30k. That's just not happening.

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    3. You'd be better off with a Tundra if you can swing it.

    4. That's fine if ya love the Ford, go for it. But that seems like a crazy price for a 2009 w/ that many miles. Look up the KBB, $15k probably double.

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