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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkgt View Post
    Have you considered a Colorado?
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    what happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North View Post
    An opinion that you almost certainly don't want to hear: none of your stated requirements scream "needs a truck." Plenty of other options out there that will be much better for the stuff you'll be using it for 90% of the time than a body on frame vehicle. If you must have a truck, and Ford and Toys are out, Chevy makes a "Colorado", presumably because it's the vehicle required to do "Colorado" things.
    Agree. Currently have a Ď11 MDX and itís been great for CO things. Iíve taken it on a number of rough roads that I probably shouldnít have and now at 128k, Iím wondering whether to replace the suspension or buy a truck/SUV with off-road capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North View Post
    An opinion that you almost certainly don't want to hear: none of your stated requirements scream "needs a truck." Plenty of other options out there that will be much better for the stuff you'll be using it for 90% of the time than a body on frame vehicle. If you must have a truck, and Ford and Toys are out, Chevy makes a "Colorado", presumably because it's the vehicle required to do "Colorado" things.
    While I get what you're saying, accessing 4wd trailheads regularly seems like a good reason to own a real BOF truck/SUV to me. I like low-range and ground clearance in a mountain rig, personally.

    Although I am in the middle of a cross country road trip in an F150 so maybe I'm just stubborn and like trucks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    What he actually wants is a Land Cruiser with a North Shore rack
    Who on this board doesnít?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    what happened?
    Towing heavy load? Not sure exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain View Post
    And it looks like a pig (shrug). Hey, I loved what my 97 F250 could do - pull a house off it's foundation, last 500,000 miles, pull a trailer over a grade without breathing hard.. But going off pavement was not what it was good at. It could do it, but compared to a gasser with a shorter wheel base, no comparison.
    Yeah there is....The last 3 minutes of that viddy is a V8 Cherokee custom crawler that prob came in on a trailer, shitting nutz and bolts all over that trail like a proper drama queen...


    You forgot how much better LWB is on snow & ice....That 7200lb Ferd with limited slip will be comfortable when a SWB Yeep is spinning out on black ice or getting its steer axle bounced out of washboard snow and road moguls...

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    Tacomas are nice. People just like to complain and nitpick things on the internet. I will say that they are shockingly small and cramped inside. My 2009 scion xb is more comfortable to drive then the newer tacos. I'm 6'2 and 220 lbs so you might not feel cramped if you're not as big.



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    Are Jeep Grand Cherokees still fairly unreliable or have they improved?

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    A partnership between Fiat and Chrysler/Dodge, what could go wrong!?

    If you want a truck, get a truck. I agree with the go drive them suggestion. Toyota got heavy handed trying to squeeze mileage out of an inherently poor mileage vehicle, using the same concepts and technology they use in their cars. The result is that drive-ability suffers a bit. It bothers some more than others, and there are workarounds, but the only way to know is to drive one. It's still a Toyota, and a solid truck with excellent reliability ratings and resale value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Are Jeep Grand Cherokees still fairly unreliable or have they improved?
    I used to be a Jeep guy...

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    Drove a Sequoia all weekend. Probably going to buy one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley View Post
    A partnership between Fiat and Chrysler/Dodge, what could go wrong!?

    If you want a truck, get a truck. I agree with the go drive them suggestion. Toyota got heavy handed trying to squeeze mileage out of an inherently poor mileage vehicle, using the same concepts and technology they use in their cars. The result is that drive-ability suffers a bit. It bothers some more than others, and there are workarounds, but the only way to know is to drive one. It's still a Toyota, and a solid truck with excellent reliability ratings and resale value.
    Whatís wrong with itís drivability? Just under powered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    What’s wrong with it’s drivability? Just under powered?

    So there have been several threads on new/used Tacoma's over the past month and in my quest to replace the Camry and GTI with another truck I took a spin in one...

    Truck in question is a 2019 Tacoma TRD Offroad DCSB that had 7 miles. Dealer listed $34K

    First we will start off with what everybody hates, the transmission. Truck was warmed up and ready to go when we set off, gently taking off the transmission shifted so fast into what seemed like 4th gear by 25mph. Weird. A quick jab of the throttle at 45 it got confused, but eventually took off. Letting off it went strait for 6th. Rather annoying I say, who knows if it would get better once it learns your driving.

    The 3.5 was more than adequate in my opinion. Everybody seems to say the 4.0 is better, I honestly beg to differ. It does have to rev up a decent bit to get moving, so low end torque is lacking. However, this is the EXACT characteristic of the 4.0 in my 2009, have to rev the snot out of it to get it to decently move. The 3.5 felt smoother with a bit more power. The engine bay layout was shockingly the exact same as the second gens.

    The interior was top notch to me, but I'm not hard to impress. Everything was laid out well and had a decent amount of technology for the price. Lane assist, front crash avoidance, wireless phone charging, etc. Seats were comfy to me and I actually liked the seating position. There was a little bit too much going on with the steering wheel buttons, maybe once I got used to it, it would be ok. Front leg room was decent, but I'm only 5'8". If you're any taller the rear passengers will be cramped.

    Handling was light years above my '09, but that's to be expected as my truck is approaching 134K and has a lift kit. It rode smooth and soaked up the pot hole ladened road. Cornering was how you expect in a truck, some body roll was expected. Nothing much else to really say about it.



    Overall I thought it was a nice truck and even with the goofy transmission programing I would still purchase it. Even though I own a Tacoma I went into it unbiased as I could be. Like I said the transmission was a little bit of a letdown and I don't seem to remember an earlier 3rd gen doing this, but it's been a while. Our Camry behaves the same; trying to get in the upper gears as quick as possible. Might be the reason I don't mind it as much as others. The 5 speed auto in my truck does also act similar (contrary to what people say) as it tries to shift as early as possible. I have to keep it in 4th alot of times so it doesn't bog down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The SnowShow View Post
    Whatís wrong with itís drivability? Just under powered?
    The newer Jeep Grand Cherokeeís drive great, have good power, can tow 6500 max vs the average of 3500-5000 for similar sized SUVís. The handle well too and are great in the snow. Has like 8 gears I think so really smooth shifting and peppy. Sub par gas mileage (18 mpg avg) Guess I just got lucky? It was my wifeís 3 year lease so she traded in for the new Honda Passport. We both like the Jeep better. I guess you could get a lemon and not sure if the long term issues that could arise after 3 years. Handles way better than my 4Runner and has more power. Iím not a car guy so canít comment in much else.


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    The 8-speed from German brand ZF is pretty slick. They're in high end European vehicles in addition to the domestic Jeeps and Rams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    The newer Jeep Grand Cherokee’s drive great
    I think he meant the new Tacomas?

    But yes the new GC drives great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    what happened?
    That's the second Colorado I've seen like that. First was towing a 3k trailer on a bumpy FS road....those trucks are baby shit, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Stainless View Post
    Drove a Sequoia all weekend. Probably going to buy one.
    I have an '06, fucking love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Donít get anything newer than a 2015. The 3rd gens are garbage (2016+). Read up on the well documented issue with no power, constant shifting transmissions, diff leaks...
    Asked my mechanic about Tacoma's. He only mentioned leaks on Gen2 models, but maybe he doesn't see a lot of Gen3 yet. Wouldn't diff leaks on a Gen3 be covered under warranty? I can't imagine the power and transmission shifting issues being any worse than my current Gen 1 Taco with 320k on it. Sounds like I'd be getting the same thing in a newer, nicer package.

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    My Dad bought a 2018 TRD Pro last spring. He's a traveling fool and must have put at least 30k on it by now and has had zero complaints, FWIW. Certainly hasn't complained about lack of power, quite the opposite actually, but his previous vehicle was also a '04 Escape so that's relative. Doesn't tow, but does have a Go Fast Camper on it.

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    Maybe Iím picky. Maybe I got a bad one. Either way I was glad to be rid of mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    The newer Jeep Grand Cherokeeís drive great, have good power, can tow 6500 max vs the average of 3500-5000 for similar sized SUVís. The handle well too and are great in the snow. Has like 8 gears I think so really smooth shifting and peppy. Sub par gas mileage (18 mpg avg) Guess I just got lucky? It was my wifeís 3 year lease so she traded in for the new Honda Passport. We both like the Jeep better. I guess you could get a lemon and not sure if the long term issues that could arise after 3 years. Handles way better than my 4Runner and has more power. Iím not a car guy so canít comment in much else.


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    I did mean the Tacoma but thatís good to hear about the Jeep.

    However, Iíve always stayed away from Jeeps after hearing endless complaints about their reliability. Have they improved?

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    I have an '08 Ram 2500 short bed with a Cummins diesel. With MXT tires it handles nasty fs roads and snow as well as my previous 4runner did (although a bit bumpier), gets way better mileage, can do actual work, has a more comfortable cab, can tow twice as much, scares small children, and will last far longer with proper maintenance. Plus my dog loves it

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