Page 134 of 149 FirstFirst ... 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 ... LastLast
Results 3,326 to 3,350 of 3716

Thread: Trucks.

  1. #3326
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    7,047
    Why canít we get cheaper, no frills work trucks in the US? At least some of the manufacturers are making them (maybe not to US emissions or safety standards). Is the market too small for the size of the country?

    FB just pointed me to a new 2021 land cruiser lc79 in Dubai. $30,000. 2 seater truck. LHD. 4wd. 3 pedals. 4.0 v6 gasser. Ac, stereo, auto locks, manual windows.

  2. #3327
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    977
    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    Why can’t we get cheaper, no frills work trucks in the US? At least some of the manufacturers are making them (maybe not to US emissions or safety standards). Is the market too small for the size of the country?

    FB just pointed me to a new 2021 land cruiser lc79 in Dubai. $30,000. 2 seater truck. LHD. 4wd. 3 pedals. 4.0 v6 gasser. Ac, stereo, auto locks, manual windows.

    It's all about maximizing revenue extraction. They sell cheaper trucks in places where if they weren't cheap they wouldn't sell any, but no reason to kill the golden goose in US/CA.

  3. #3328
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    7,047

    Trucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hopeless Sinner View Post
    It's all about maximizing revenue extraction. They sell cheaper trucks in places where if they weren't cheap they wouldn't sell any, but no reason to kill the golden goose in US/CA.
    Maybe

    The same seller is also selling a new 300-series LC out of Dubai for $120,000 (usd).

    (the pickup would look great with a machine gun mounted in the bed)
    Last edited by bodywhomper; 11-21-2021 at 12:45 AM.

  4. #3329
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Granite, UT
    Posts
    1,252
    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    Why can’t we get cheaper, no frills work trucks in the US? At least some of the manufacturers are making them (maybe not to US emissions or safety standards). Is the market too small for the size of the country?

    FB just pointed me to a new 2021 land cruiser lc79 in Dubai. $30,000. 2 seater truck. LHD. 4wd. 3 pedals. 4.0 v6 gasser. Ac, stereo, auto locks, manual windows.
    Something like this?

    https://www.kbb.com/car-news/single-...turn-for-2022/

  5. #3330
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    slc
    Posts
    15,145
    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post

    Also, thanks to a friend at a dealership, I got it at cost-plus and ended up getting a crazy amount for the 6.7. Net was $5k....no brainer, though it took 5 months.
    You'd be stupid not to take that deal. Congrats!

  6. #3331
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Behind the Potato Curtain
    Posts
    3,813
    Ranger redesign gets unveiled on the 24th. Colorado/Canyon coming for next year as well.

  7. #3332
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Central VT
    Posts
    4,613
    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    Why canít we get cheaper, no frills work trucks in the US? At least some of the manufacturers are making them (maybe not to US emissions or safety standards). Is the market too small for the size of the country?

    FB just pointed me to a new 2021 land cruiser lc79 in Dubai. $30,000. 2 seater truck. LHD. 4wd. 3 pedals. 4.0 v6 gasser. Ac, stereo, auto locks, manual windows.
    Doug Demuro just did a review of a 2021 Landcruiser thatís sold abroad - 4wd, cloth seats, no screens, lock dif, turbo V6, manual seats - about as base model as a Landcruiser can be. It would be about $50k in USD. Iíd be first in line if it ever came here.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums

  8. #3333
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    7,047
    Quote Originally Posted by HankScorpio View Post
    Doug Demuro just did a review of a 2021 Landcruiser thatís sold abroad - 4wd, cloth seats, no screens, lock dif, turbo V6, manual seats - about as base model as a Landcruiser can be. It would be about $50k in USD. Iíd be first in line if it ever came here.


    Sent from my iPhone using TGR Forums
    And thatís only a 300-series. (Supposedly, there will be a 300-series in the us at some point, sold under lexus). If Iím not mistaken, there are still various trim lines of being sold as LHD of the 4 models of the 70-series land cruisers. I do not understand their strategy.

  9. #3334
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    panhandle locdog
    Posts
    7,424
    Chicken Tax is the issue... that $50,000.00 gets another 25% import tax putting in the realm of a luxury SUV. This has been the dilemma of the Land Cruiser since the 80s.

  10. #3335
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    749
    Quote Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Chicken Tax is the issue... that $50,000.00 gets another 25% import tax putting in the realm of a luxury SUV. This has been the dilemma of the Land Cruiser since the 80s.
    No chicken tax if built in US.

    Sent from my SM-G998U1 using Tapatalk

  11. #3336
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    panhandle locdog
    Posts
    7,424
    Quote Originally Posted by VTeton View Post
    No chicken tax if built in US.

    Sent from my SM-G998U1 using Tapatalk
    Land Cruisers have never been built in the USA.

  12. #3337
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    7,047
    with a 25% tax, that barebones 2 seat land cruiser pickup would be under $37k.

  13. #3338
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    NCW
    Posts
    3,652
    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    with a 25% tax, that barebones 2 seat land cruiser pickup would be under $37k.
    And what would that do to the Tacoma tax?

    Toyota has no incentive to shoot themselves in the foot.
    Quote Originally Posted by mfcf13 View Post
    The world needs more Donnely and less Stainless.

  14. #3339
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Southeast New York
    Posts
    9,044
    That chicken tax is the dumbest shit. The selection of light trucks around the world would be so different if that wasn't a thing.

  15. #3340
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Granite, UT
    Posts
    1,252
    Quote Originally Posted by gravitylover View Post
    That chicken tax is the dumbest shit. The selection of light trucks around the world would be so different if that wasn't a thing.
    I don't know.... they managed to bring the euro Ranger over here and that most of the press on that says it's a steaming POS.

  16. #3341
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    10,648
    I fell in love when I went 4 wheeling in a Hilux in NZ. The thing was a manual, stripped down, double cab, long bed, similar to a 1st gen Taco, but even less bells and whistles. Paint was a matte brown/yellow. The thing drove like a tractor and it was awesome, especially for the South Island.

    We got it stuck, like mud up to the windows, stuck, middle of nowhere, by ourselves. We had shovels, and were about to start digging. Thankfully, some goat hunters showed up, fresh off the kill, in their Hiluxes (it took two of them), and yanked us out with a chain, gave us some beers, and showed us the goats they were hauling out of the back country, nicest blokes I'd ever met. I've been dreaming of that truck since that day.

    The thing in the US is this. The bells and whistles make the monies, the margin on bells and whistles is probably better than the actual truck. Nobody buys the stock, stripped down, $30k Taco. They (myself included) buy the one with all the trimmings for $40k+. There's no incentive for Toyota to make what we all say would be our dream truck.

  17. #3342
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    SŲlden
    Posts
    415
    I mean to be fair...the US Taco + Tundra are really simple. Even the 4runner. Up until recently...same powertrain/features for like 10+ years now. Problem is...is the price on them compared to overseas which I agree with everyone. My 2012 Tundra with 200k is stupid simple to work on(minus the starter), and reliable as heck. Yes, I wish we had the turbo diesels over here in the mid-size/1/2 ton capacity but just not happening. My 2012 4runner I had was the same way...easy to work on, very simple, same 4.0 drivetrain as it has for years. I have had a lot of diesel 3/4 tons in my career(from all big 3 actually), and still find myself coming back to Toyota for my purposes. Again, price for them is ridiculous of how basic they are(40k+, just for a new basic model essentially etc.) US Market is not ideal for work/play models because everybody in the US wants a platinum truck so they can feel all 'Murican with their heated and cooled rear seats. Such is life.

  18. #3343
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    7,235
    I always looked at it that I was paying for reliability. You don't build trucks as reliable as Toyota without putting in the time, effort, and expense to design and build things properly. Does it have the bells and whistles? No, but those ball coolers always break on American iron because they spend 1/4 the time developing them.
    Live Free or Die

  19. #3344
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    On a genuine ol' fashioned authentic steam powered aereoplane
    Posts
    14,626
    Going back to a post from a while ago......I fixed my headlights on my Tundra. The $10 restoration kit at Home Depot actually works.

    So, onto the windshield: My truck is a 2012 and has the OEM windshield (I'm second owner) and it must have that special coating because despite being hit by several huge rocks it won't actually crack. Problem is that it's so pitted from driving sanded mountain roads that I can barely see out of it at night or in direct sunlight.

    Think Geico will cover it under my comprehensive insurance? Deductible will be a lot cheaper than buying a windshield outright.

  20. #3345
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    1,744
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    Going back to a post from a while ago......I fixed my headlights on my Tundra. The $10 restoration kit at Home Depot actually works.

    So, onto the windshield: My truck is a 2012 and has the OEM windshield (I'm second owner) and it must have that special coating because despite being hit by several huge rocks it won't actually crack. Problem is that it's so pitted from driving sanded mountain roads that I can barely see out of it at night or in direct sunlight.

    Think Geico will cover it under my comprehensive insurance? Deductible will be a lot cheaper than buying a windshield outright.
    Borrow a bb gun and crack it? Maybe put a piece of plywood behind where you are going to shoot so that you don't need to make a claim for a new rear window too.

  21. #3346
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    3,891
    I've claimed windshields without cracks before. Just tell them your windshield is fucked and schedule an appointment. They don't need proof.

  22. #3347
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    On a genuine ol' fashioned authentic steam powered aereoplane
    Posts
    14,626
    So it's actually only $370 for my windshield. I guess my truck is old enough that it's a pretty basic piece of glass.

  23. #3348
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    10,018
    You or your glass installer need to tell a fib to the insurance company.

  24. #3349
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    977
    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian View Post
    So it's actually only $370 for my windshield. I guess my truck is old enough that it's a pretty basic piece of glass.

    I'd make an effort to get it in a shop vs mobile repair.

  25. #3350
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    25,877
    I bought baseline trucks

    In 2010 Ford had speced a bunch of Rangers at $6600 off cuz they were pulling the plug on the production line so with rubber floor mats, manual windows shitty radio but still a 4.0 liter 5spd 4x4 V6 with air and not much else was still only 19K while the full load Ranger was more like 26K

    In 2019 the cheapest Tacoma on the lot still had heated seats/ air/ power windows but even the stripped Tacoma was not very stripped for 42K and full load was 60ish

    I think it might be hard to get a stripped PU unless it can be pecifically order stripped, and to do so you might have to be a really big customer ?
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •