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Thread: Trucks.
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09-18-2021, 07:57 PM #2951
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09-18-2021, 08:04 PM #2952
I've been driving a 2500 Silverado crew cab for three months now. My last 2500 was an 07. At 5'10 I feel short trying to load anything into the bed. The thing is stock and sits so high I'm not sure exactly who it was designed for but I would go back to my 07 in a heartbeat. I feel like I'm driving a mack truck, which is nice on the highway but around town not so much. Does tow better than the old one though.
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09-19-2021, 06:15 PM #2953Registered User
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Anyone notice the "Chevy Truck Month" commercials?
Nothing about the trucks, I assume because none are available.
Truck month this year is about the stuff to buy that you bolt onto the truck.
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09-19-2021, 06:30 PM #2954
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09-19-2021, 07:33 PM #2955
I've been laughing pretty hard at the new Silverado commercials.
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09-19-2021, 08:45 PM #2956
The most important feature about trucks is the tailgate. Everything else is just window dressing.
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09-19-2021, 08:52 PM #2957
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEJbKLZ7RmM
I just tried this method. Short term results seem promising, but I cannot comment on durability. The standard refurbishing kit methods don’t seem to last very long.
This seemed worth a try to save about $500
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09-19-2021, 09:22 PM #2958
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09-19-2021, 09:26 PM #2959
New Tundra. Hybrid option. I like it better than the current model. Launch video shows a bunch of Land Cruisers the US never got which is lame.
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09-20-2021, 01:09 PM #2960
New 2022 Tundra...
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/2022-toy...010000298.html
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09-20-2021, 01:28 PM #2961
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09-20-2021, 02:34 PM #2962
Brother.
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09-20-2021, 03:59 PM #2963
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09-20-2021, 04:29 PM #2964
390hp/480tq for a base engine is badass
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09-27-2021, 12:02 AM #2965Registered User
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F150 3.5 Ecoboost used market, enlighten me.
1st gen vs 2nd gen?
Reliability?
Known issues?
I am a GM guy, but people keep steering me towards this truck as it has the best towing for a 1/2 ton, gets decent mileage and drives good enough I guess.
Want to spend under $40k.
Would like nice creature comforts (heated seats, decent interior.materials, etc) shocked to see how many xlts with cloth interior are out there. Work fleet strippers I guess.
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09-27-2021, 08:04 AM #2966
Wonder why the hybrid doesn’t have an option for onboard AC power like the Ford. Also wonder why tundra doesn’t have a trim that competes with rhe high payload trim from Ford.
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09-27-2021, 09:37 AM #2967
for reference my 2020 sxt model with 3.5 was $42909 out the door. I think MSRP was around $39000. 2021 with V8 MSRP is $44790. I looked for used trucks for awhile new seemed the way to go when you get in the $40000 range. I was thinking about the heated seats and leather but when I thought about writing the check for 20% more decided against.
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09-27-2021, 09:41 AM #2968
Morimoto has a full headlight swap, if the price is good for your budget: Morimoto | The Benchmark in Automotive Lighting | 2011 Toyota Tundra LED and HID Upgrades (morimotohid.com)
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09-27-2021, 07:28 PM #2969Registered User
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I'm biased with a 2017, but I think the second gen is a significant improvement.
There are outstanding field campaigns (ie we know this can be an issue but we're not going to do a recall) for cam phaser noise and a couple of other things, but reports from people who've had the field service done have been mixed (I think it's largely tweaking various control parameters in onboard computers).
Door locks are subject to moisture and freezing. Never had the issue in Montana, happens annoyingly often in Maine. There is are multiple field service campaigns, but the reports on the forums are that improving ventilation and drainage helps at least as much as the Ford fixes. Remote start to heat up the cabin on cold days keeps me and the locks happier, but I do keep straps on the truck for cargo and have used them between interior door handles.
I have cloth with heated seats in a fairly well optioned XLT, didn't want to spend another ten grand for leather, keyless start, and LED lighting. Traditionally, the price gap from XLT to Lariat is bigger than it looks based on stickers, as the XLT gets more promos. No idea what that means now. My plan is that if I still own the truck when my kids are old enough not to trash it, I'll go with aftermarket leather.
If you're handy, it's possible to upgrade some stuff to higher spec (eg I've got a heated Raptor wheel with working paddles), but it usually takes wiring, programming, and the parts themselves.
Oh, two big gotchas on XLT vs Lariat that I didn't think about when I bought mine:
a) Lariats offer auto 4WD, XLTs are traditional transfer cases (2 or 4wd)
b) I think, but am not sure, that the Lariat may have heat in the backseat of the crew cab. Or maybe it's a jump seat vs console thing. Either way, mine doesn't, so my kids will need to be tough during the winter.
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09-27-2021, 08:00 PM #2970Registered User
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Thank vtbum, great stuff.
I heard about the phaser thing, and carboning valves, and early transmission death. Wish I could get a manual trans.
Being new to Ford trucks I haven't figured out the trim levels, differences and associated costs yet. Lot's of xlts out there for sure.
I currently have a pretty basic base 08 gmc Sierra crew 4x4 with cloth seats, I added Amazon seat heaters and they've been fine, but it has the 4.8 so towing sucks.
Looking at 4wd crew cab with Max tow package so far, not set on a year or trim.
If I am spending $ for a newer upgraded truck, I was hoping for more creature comforts, especially if having to own a Ford ;-)
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09-28-2021, 06:17 AM #2971Registered User
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I had a 2014 Silverado LT with a bunch of options added - it was a great truck. Went without a truck for a few years and then ended up in a 2019 F-150 King Ranch with the 3.5 Ecoboost, and later a Raptor. But the KR and Raptor are almost the same in terms of fit, finish, and features. The Ford is a better truck - mainly because Chevy has done the bare minimum updates since 2014.
The 3.5 Ecoboost is powerful and gets solid mileage (19 combined / 21 highway actual in the King Ranch, 16 combined / 19 highway actual in the Raptor). The 10 speed transmission is great too - much smoother than the 8 speed in the RAMs and miles better than what my 2014 Silverado had.
If you get one of the higher spec trucks they have a ridiculous amount of features - ventilated/cooled seats, massaging seats, auto everything, etc. I actually really do like the additional safety features like the auto-braking, lane keep assist, adaptive cruise, blind spot monitor, etc. I know a lot of people don't love that stuff or don't want it - but the auto-braking / collision avoidance thing saved my ass once and that was enough for me to be happy I had it.
Ford does a very good job structuring the upgrades so that it is appealing to just go up to the next tier rather than get a lower tier truck with more features. IE: XL and XLT don't have many creature comforts and it's cheaper to get a Lariat than a maxed out XLT. Then you get the Lariat and want whatever and it becomes cheaper to get the King Ranch or Platinum than add the features. I think the Lariats are the sweet spot and you can generally find them with just about every option you could possibly need yet still slightly less $$ than a Platinum.
All told, the Ford is by far the most expensive of the big 3 - you aren't paying for a single standout feature but small improvements over the other trucks on just about all fronts. I have bought mine used, but if buying new I'd strongly consider the RAM because the dealers seem more aggressive about discounting (now especially compared to Ford).
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09-28-2021, 07:34 AM #2972
Low inventory
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09-28-2021, 09:25 AM #2973Registered User
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It should be noted that my F-150 is my first new vehicle, and I do love the creature comforts, especially combined with the capability provided with 4WD and a rear locker. Bouncing down an unplowed USFS road on the way back from backcountry skiing with seat heaters on and the satellite radio going was almost surreal coming from a 200k-mile Xterra. The options do come at a cost, though, in dollars, complexity, and in weight, and that can really matter if you want to push the towing envelope (like most half tons, the F-150 tends to run out of payload well before hitting the GCWR or "tow limit"); eg I can theoretically tow north of 11k, but when I moved cross country with one passenger, a little cargo in the truck, and a 7k cargo trailer, I was a couple hundred pounds over GVWR on the truck axles, although I wasn't over either axle limit independently.
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09-28-2021, 10:42 AM #2974
I was wondering the other day if I could just show up at local Toyota dealer and buy a tundra right off the lot. Tried calling down there twice and had no success. Conversation went something like
Me: i’d like to talk with someone in sales please
Her: “do you have someone in sales you’re working with?”
Me:no. I want to talk about buying a tundra
Her: OK hold on. After about 10 rounds of no answer and being transferred back to the operator I concluded that there was no one in sales that could answer the phone and I hung up.
So, does anyone know if it is indeed possible to show up at a Toyota dealer and go home with a new tundra?
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09-28-2021, 10:53 AM #2975
I don't know if it's possible to show up at any dealer and go home with a new pickup or van, maybe a Titan?
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