Din Setting

[I've seen black diamonds!]

I'm 5'10" 175lbs, usually a 26 boot. Trial and error got me to 8.5 with FKS, 9.5 with Salomon, 10 with Dynafits (higher for vertical heel if they go to twelve) and 11 with Dukes or Marker tours. Ran FKS higher when I was young, skied lots of bumps and did lots of daffys.

[stuckathuntermtn]

I get the following:

Level III: 9.5 DIN
Level III+: 11 DIN

Actual Setting: 13 Din

Are your ACLs fiberwire?

[Damian Sanders]

Are your ACLs fiberwire?

I don't fall. Ever. When I crash, my bindings come off no problem.

[Damian Sanders]

Damien doesn't know how to use a din chart.

Look you little twit, YOU'RE the one who doesn't know how to use a DIN chart.

SEE PAGE 28:

http://www.salomoncertification.com/...FIN_Rev_04.pdf

The following procedure is used for
determining visual indicator settings
using the 2013/2014 Atomic/
Salomon Adjustment Chart.
1. Find the Skier’s Code. Locate the
skier’s weight and height in the first
two columns. If the skier’s weight
and height are not in the same row,
select the Skier’s code that is closest
to the top of the chart.
2. The skier’s code is appropriate for
Type I skiers:
• For Type II skiers, move down
on the chart one row.
• For Type III skiers, move down
on the chart two rows.
• For Type -I skiers, move up on
the chart one row.

FrostedFlakes Level III Din is 8. Due to MY height and weight, I start at the next row down, but am in the same boot size column, so my Level III din is 9.5.

Actually, me setting at a 13 din, could be considered to be a "Level III++", where I go four rows down from my height/weight row.

[adrenalated]

Trial and error puts me at 8 on FKS, 9 on Salomon STH or Guardian, and 10 on Dynafit Radical 1.0.
I chart out to 8 for type III+.

[Damian Sanders]

Trial and error puts me at 8 on FKS, 9 on Salomon STH or Guardian, and 10 on Dynafit Radical 1.0.
I chart out to 8 for type III+.

That means you're under 147lbs and/or under 5'5" with a 291-310mm bootsole, or under 175lb and/or under 5'11" with a 331mm+ boot sole. Are you sure?

[adrenalated]

That means you're under 147lbs and/or under 5'5" with a 291-310mm bootsole, or under 175lb and/or under 5'11" with a 331mm+ boot sole. Are you sure?

Yes, I am 140-145lbs depending on the day with a 297mm boot.

[FrostedFlakes]

Y'all need to eat more and lift some weights.. I havnt been below 170 since highschool.. Lol

[XXX-er]

Powder leashes? A bunch or geriatrics around here.
..

The B & D are lighter & actualy work really well cuz the curly cord lets the ski get 6' away from you which dissipates energy and for touring you can do everything still connected to your skis

IME Dynafit brakes weighed more and didn't really do shit on the hard piste and I seen that both on a groomer and hard crust in the BC above treeline

I just turn up the din till they quit falling off ... which is about what the charts recommmend

[Eluder]

Look you little twit, YOU'RE the one who doesn't know how to use a DIN chart.

I forgot you're such a egomaniac that of course you are talking about your own not the OP's Din. My bad.

[PlayItLeo]

I don't fall. Ever.

Rog?

[PNWbrit]

Rog?

That'd be keep turning up the DIN until your sunglasses don't fall off.

[stuckathuntermtn]

1st day today. 3' of fresh. No release. 6' 200# and 315 bsl. Chart says 8 for III and I bumped it up to 9.
There was a time a few years ago where if I hit a cattrack or mogul just so and didn't absorb it with my body, I would release, so up went the din. I was lighter then, too.
Maybe I just suck.
Getting low and absorbing stuff helps.
Idk if he'd have less elastic travel going to a Duke since it's basically the same retention mechanism. It won't be any better, but it won't be any worse.
Seems like you can tour or have knees, but not both. The toes on frame bindings always look like shit to me. :/

Yeah, I probably just suck. Today was also day 1, so I wasn't exactly pushing it.

[old goat]

If you look at the range of weights, heights, and BSL's that produce the same DIN setting it's pretty clear the chart is only a rough approximation of the best setting for any skier. Note to that DIN settings were calculated in large part based on the premise that heavier people had bigger bones, which may have been true back in the day but not necessarily true in modern Western civilization.
Adjusting the DIN away from the textbook value should be based on the understanding that the higher the DIN the more likely an injury due to failure to release. When the consequence of release is high--ie no fall zone--raising the DIN makes sense. After all if you do fall you're going to wind up with a lot worse than a broken leg . In powder it makes less sense (that said--the worst injury I had was from a pre lease traversing at low speed through heavy powder--fell headfirst downhill landed on my shoulder and dislocated it.) So ask yourself--is it worse if I release in such and such situation or worse if I don't, and adjust accordingly.

IME surveyor's flagging tears too easily. Leashes or fabric powder ribbons are better.

[beaterdit]

5'7", 140 lbs, 296 BSL. Ski Salomons at 11 (OG all metal 916s only) but WTF do I know? They come off when they need to. Ski Dynafit Radical STs at 10 because I don't want to ski them maxed out. Seems OK, I ski more conservatively in the BC. If I read the chart correctly, as a "type 3+" I should be at 8? No way Jose. If you're wondering, my avatar was the result of extremely non-releasable tele bindings. That was stupid, D'oh!

[cat in january]

Just to throw in for whoever is reading. It has been my perception that when I start to push the din up higher the elasticity of the binding goes down correspondingly. That is tough on the old knees.

[Lindahl]

That'd be keep turning up the DIN until your sunglasses don't fall off.

That was fucking funny. More plz

[Lindahl]

The toes on frame bindings always look like shit to me. :/

Total shit. DIN is only half the equation. This happened yesterday.

[FrostedFlakes]

Total shit. DIN is only half the equation. This happened yesterday.

Hahahahhahaahahah that's hilarious not for you but for us..

[Lindahl]

It was pretty hilarious for me too... that was my buddy

[FrostedFlakes]

It was pretty hilarious for me too... that was my buddy

Well if it makes him makes feel any better ..work happened for me yesterday.. And the day before that and the week before that and the year before that and the decade before that.. With 20-30 days of skiing in between at most.. So his life could be worst...

[Ottime]

I'm in the same camp as many. Make slight adjustments until you find what is right for you. 8.5 on the books. Stay right there for my pivots. My Solly are at 9.5. Verts at 10.5 and Dukes at 11.5. Found that is what works over years of making .5 din adjustments.

OTOH, I used to back my springs out each summer. Skied opening day a number of years ago on a 5 din setting because of this. Finally pre released after twenty runs, mostly on groomers, but also hitting a short (100') mogul field. What I learned was that if you are skiing with finesse, you can go with a much lower din setting. I must have looked smooth that day.

[Damian Sanders]

I arrived at a 13 din after several years of blowing out of M51 and M48 markers in the mid and late 90's. Get my first pair of 11-17 din salomons in 1998, set at 14, and realized..........oooooh this is what it's like when my skis don't come off all the time. Now I'm 30 lbs heavier, and ski a 13 din on metal salomons or metal turntables. Skiing chattery ice at high speed will certainly make you prerelease at a low din. I can ski a 10 din or less but regularly walk out of them skiing the way I want to ski.

[XXX-er]

Total shit. DIN is only half the equation. This happened yesterday.

In their 1st year those^^ were renown for the pivot breaking which i believe got fixed in later years so how old is that binding???

I picked up that^^ ski really cheap and with that binding & skins it would be a very fucking heavy setup that would wreck the knees just trying to tour that rig, in fact I avoid side stepping my set up

[Bruce Springskiin]

Will there be a DIN tuning station at the BBI'16?