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Thread: Eastside Conditions Thread
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04-27-2019, 02:05 PM #1551
Throughly enjoyed what you all are doing with your deep strong snowpack. Thanks for that
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04-27-2019, 04:05 PM #1552
JimW, yeah, I didn't mean to sound like a winy little b**ch. We were totally stoked to do the Cardinal chute and it's really cool. It's just that i'd climbed Cardinal before, in fact, it was my #1 mountain choice in that region - just cause it looks so cool with the different colored rocks. So nothing against cardinal - it's awesome, but just that i wanted split that day.
Best Mexican Skier from da south - dude, sick trip. really cool pics. great job!
Cool to see Buffy still slaying it. We ran into her in Tahoe earlier in the year. One of the best riders period.
here's some beta:
monitor pass is open.
it's full on fishmas season with all of the stores/restaurants open for the summer.
still closed on 120 at the lower gate. V bowl looks pretty good, but maybe the bottom 5th burned out. i might post pics later.
Virginia lakes open past the packstation, but not yet to the lake (as of friday). lots of snow at vlakes - dunderburg S side still is pretty wide at the choke and probably 2+ weeks before it burns out.
Lundy is still pretty much skin/ski to the car (slight walk).
Convict is skinnable from the car, but if you ski the N face ramp down to the trail, maybe 2-3 min walk to the trail.
i'd guess snowline has been moving up ~200-500ft per week for the flats/approaches.
Corn window today was starting at 9am on E or SE aspects at 11k. good freeze at 7.5k.
People still did mendenhal today and said it was still great (no ice bulge, etc).
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04-27-2019, 04:24 PM #1553
Just wrapped up 11 consecutive days of touring near Mammoth and Bishop. What a place! A lifetime of rad skiing options and easy living/camping in the desert. Long haul coming from CO, but worthy of a return for me next time you guys have a big (or even average) season.
Personal favorites:
- Steep chute/face off of N side of S Morrison (steepest thing I've ever skied)
- North Couloir on Mt Gilbert
- Mt. Tom
Also, McGee creek road was plowed the day after I slogged back there and posted beta. Probably to the summer TH now. South Lake road is open until just before the lake (1mi), near the parking area for summer cabins (might be open to lake today).
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04-27-2019, 04:31 PM #1554Rod9301
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For Gilbert, were you able to skin on the lake?
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04-27-2019, 04:38 PM #1555
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04-28-2019, 10:25 AM #1556
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04-28-2019, 10:27 AM #1557Registered User
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Views from the top of South Peak on Thursday. N facing was maybe 20minuets too soft @11:30.
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04-28-2019, 01:02 PM #1558
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04-28-2019, 05:59 PM #1559registered abuser
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Daybreak on the land
No rush over there
Bit of a rush over here
Portal to the gnar
10:45 drop $$$$$
THE panel
Butter under psychedelic walls
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04-28-2019, 06:08 PM #1560registered abuser
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It’s seriously like right there
The time is near, the missions clear
Spring across the street for lap 1 and winter lap 2
Same as alreadyreported bout crossing
Full circle from the portal
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04-28-2019, 07:27 PM #1561
Nice Toby! you f*cking did it! I was wondering if you guys were gonna pull it off... Great job that's like a ~9000ft day man, you guys killed it.
Hey so the pic of the Split couloir - is it as narrow at the top as it looks in the picture?
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04-28-2019, 09:15 PM #1562
Badass gimpy!
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04-29-2019, 12:31 AM #1563
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04-29-2019, 09:04 AM #1564registered abuser
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Abe- That’s just some random notch at the top to a closeout chute on other side. I topped out on top of the more east facing butter panels but my partners went to regular top n said there was a set of tracks going in the split gnar.
Almost did a different tour that day but the cosmos intervened because it turns out akb n crew were also on that plan that day. Y’all b stoked when he posts up+++
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04-29-2019, 10:37 AM #1565Registered User
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Hey there mr. hankey, I was w Toby and summited S Split - Split C that you’re asking about is actually relatively wide, definitely wider than Cardinal. There was also a set of tracks in there.
Also FYI we ended up getting all the way to the top of Cardinal but couldn’t top out due to some thin snow on rock and a cornice, but we went left and not sure if you stay right of the rock up there if there’s a way through.
What a rad full send thread ya’ll got going this spring! Get it!!!
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04-29-2019, 10:49 AM #1566
Hot damn gimpy. Now that is a freaking a day!
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04-29-2019, 10:57 AM #1567
Also, anyone been up Onion Valley road and know how far up you can drive? Was thinking of exploring around up there this thursday on my way up to Bishop.
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04-29-2019, 11:14 AM #1568Registered User
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Love the double up Gimpy et al.!
neAr teH wHitE faNg!
We also had fun in the roof pendant zone, which are the ca. 500 million year old metasedimentary rocks that were once a local shallow sea (called country rock) and subsequently cooked, twisted, pulled, folded, faulted, and more when the Sierra Nevada batholith formed, contacted the sedimentary rock, and began to uplift. Time has done its work in eroding most of this ancient stone, but a few sweet erosional remnants persist. Some other classic roof pendants are the Split/Cardinal zone, Convict, Tioga, Tallac...seems like a good correlation with fun skiing!
My favorite line our our trip. Really enjoyable terrain and great snow. North, I think we saw the remnants of your tracks in there and followed what was left of your bootpack (for about 10 steps lol!).
Edit to add a shot to prove ModernD can make turns the other way lolol
Modern Derek enjoying a scenic cruise. Last time I was in here with The Factor in 2010 we had to mixed climb both chokes and air one and point the other on the drop. Fun to ski this this go-around as I snowboarded it the previous time.
Back to school. Half a billion years of time in the above photo. You been schooled on the roof pendants, now you can see the action of the Quaternary (2.58 million years to present. During the Pleistocene (2.58 million years to 10,000 years), glacial advances during ice ages carved out U-shaped valleys and formed the lovely moraines that bound Convict Lake and created the deposits that hide the view of the bottom of the Mendenhall from 395. The big ass moraines were formed during the Tahoe glaciation (~150,000 years ago) and the smaller moraines were formed during the Tioga glaciation (16,200-30,000 years ago). The numerous sets of inlaid moraines represent the millennial-scale heartbeat of the climate system. If you probe around the moraines between Convict and the powerlines west of 395, note how the boulders resting on the moraine crests (or in the linear strandline features above the north shore of Convict) are granite! This is because a) they were transported here from the Sierra Crest and b) because the metasedimentary rock gets chewed up and eroded much more easily. The pile of rock and dirt at the parking at the boat launch ramp was the last gasp of the ice age; this moraine was formed about 16,200 years ago and then the ice retreated back to the crest during the abrupt warming. At roughly the same time, the central Great Basin pluvial lake systems (Lahontan, Mono, etc) were full. If you are on a rest day, hike up to the "LV" above Lee Vining. You'll find yourself on a little flat shoreline and see gravelly beach deposits at your feet; this was where the lake was at the 16,900 year highstand. For other reference, when you drive by the the 7000 ft elevation sign heading north from June Lake, this is about where the lake shoreline was. Imagine that!\
Shred the Mendenhall properly, and the shoreline ladies (en route to Mammoth from Encinitas) will be like:
Let's see some other lands now:
Things then got hazy in the Smzr Couloir! Great skiing though. The Wizard approaches the choke, which oddly you can't really get a good view of from anywhere but right near it.
Luckily, the Wiz had clear vision as I sampled the Harrington Couloir on lap dos (not nearly as impressive a second lap as G$ and team!). Sick convection popping to the west.
We then visited some erratic boulders on the way out.
Based on the elevation, these might have been left behind as the ice retreated around 16,000 years ago, OR might be part of the Recess Peak glaciation, a 'last gasp' of the ice age about 13,000 years ago during what is known as the Antarctic Cold Reversal. We have been working on documenting this in a nearby basin: https://phys.org/news/2017-02-high-sierras-remnants-ice-age.html
I'll leave you with some more background material on ice ages (and how we understand them and how we date the rocks) from my colleagues Joerg Schaffer and Aaron Putnam.
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04-29-2019, 11:17 AM #1569Registered User
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04-29-2019, 11:45 AM #1570
Kind of what I figured/hoped. That's prolly what I was shooting to jump on anyways. And thanks for the geology lesson in your post. Cool stuff.
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04-29-2019, 04:55 PM #1572
Good shit everyone. East side is going off.
Some pics from the last few days.
Saturday I met AKbruin and 1 other down by Lundy. We left Tahoe in the morning and got a later start than expected when I got turned around on Kingsbury Grade (completely closed). We skied Gilcrest. N skied great despite the late start. Fun day.
Booting on Gilcrest:
AKbruin on the summit of Gilcrest:
Skiing on Gilcrest (AKbruin in the red jacket):
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04-29-2019, 05:05 PM #1573
A few more from Gilcrest:
Sunday we went for Virginia Peak. Green Creek Rd. still had snow about 3 miles from the end, so we decided to approach from VA Lakes. It worked out fine. It's about 7.5 miles each way and lots of uphill on the way out, so a bit of a slog. We didn't know what to expect from the approach, so we left at 3 am to give ourselves plenty of time. We woke up to howling winds but decided to give it a go anyways. The approach out there was rough with all the winds. We had to do a long descent by headlamp as well. When we arrived in the Viginia Peak valley it was still cold and windy so we killed more than an hour standing around in puffy jackets waiting for things to warm up and soften. I actually slept a bit. We descended at about 10:45. Snow was great corn. Our timing worked out well. Man, what a beautiful line. Getting back to the car was a slog but it was totally worthwhile.
Skiing down into the Virginia Peak valley at dawn:
Virginia Peak at sunrise:
Killing time waiting for things to warm up:
AKbruin skinning towards Virginia Peak:
Someone had been up there recently, so we had the advantage of a boot pack being in on the upper face. It also appeared someone had possibly bailed from the notch and skied down the N side.
Booting to the notch:
Booting the upper face:
Negotiating some loose rock near the summit:
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